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Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Post by jmacd »

aneesh wrote: post #18
jmacd wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, IT budgets are growing more slowly than they used to, but they are still bigger than they have ever been. The idea that 1$/user/month is outside an "enterprise" budget is laughable. Stop making things up.

> "The idea that 1$/user/month is outside an "enterprise" budget is laughable." So is the idea that Fortune 500 companies would let data like this be in the cloud.

Yeah,. Agree., even if I wish it wasn't the case.

I have been seeing a lot of cool thinking on how The Cloud can go private for these orgs.

In a way, that has started. A lot of software providers (including us) will sell a VM image that can be loaded up and moved around as needed (to provision more hardware). It seems like a baby-step.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Post by furiouslol »

hooande wrote: post #2

Yammer: Coming soon to a corporate domain blacklist near you

You guys are just being paranoid. Salesforce runs fine within the corporate environment. Besides, they copied the Salesforce IP restriction configuration for extra security. I'm betting that the corporations will embrace it.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Post by thorax »

sabat wrote: post #17
thorax wrote: post #11

I like Yammer, mainly because we'll also be using some of their techniques ourselves. It's also pretty well executed, just from some casual use. If TC50 picked a winner solely on whether the TC50 grand prize itself could make the company successful, then Yammer was the right choice. It might not have been successful without this, but because they picked it, it may give TC50 a quick success to parade next year to rais…

Care to share some details of these techniques? Enquiring minds want to know.

Well, their corporate sign-up for SAAS is one of the best mechanisms I've seen for grassroots growth in an organization. It has a lot of potential in lots of different areas.

Again and again and again in history, new technology first comes in the front door of the business before it comes anywhere near the loading dock. (I.e. employees adopt before IT/management recognizes the usefulness.) Their signup model really takes advantage of that fact. I'm super-excited to try it out for some of our upcoming releases, and it's even given me hope that some other unlikely business ideas might just work with the same sort of approach.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Post by furiouslol »

colinplamondon wrote: post #32

I have no idea why everyone is bitching about Yammer- it's great! We're using it to push out all the status stuff, random ideas for down the line, links, and deploy info. If Twitter allowed private networks, tagging, and threaded conversations we'd use Twitter. But, unfortunately, Twitter missed the boat and has failed to move forward in this area, leaving an opening for Yammer. And guess what? They executed brillian…

You practically said everything on my mind. Yammer is a better version of Twitter. Built-in tags, threaded view. It's just really well-done.

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Post by carpo »

sabat wrote: post #20
johnrob wrote: post #13

Make something people want. Either people want it or they don't, but I say judge a startup by that and not just technical innovation.

Make something people need. That beats "make something people want" any day of the week. Apologies to PG, but it should be "need". Want is transient; need isn't.

People most often buy things they want ahead of what they need, unless it's food and shelter. And even then, they usually want a type of food or shelter that they don't really need, and will buy it even when they can't afford it.

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Post by jauco »

fallentimes wrote: post #10
MicahWedemeyer wrote: post #6

Waiting for the first Yammer lawsuit due to corporate data being leaked...

good luck with corporate adoption considering yammer is indian slang for penis

The salty cookies that are called 'cut' in America and England, are rebranded as 'tuc' in the Netherlands since 'cut' is dutch slang for vagina (written with a `k').

They sell pretty well around here.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Post by sabat »

hooande wrote: post #33
sabat wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make something people need. That beats "make something people want" any day of the week. Apologies to PG, but it should be "need". Want is transient; need isn't.

It's all fun and games to tell other people to make something targeted at "customers with their hair on fire", but in reality most people's basic needs are met. Are there any "needs" that you have that aren't being satisfied right now? In many cases it's best to make something people want first and get them so used to using it that they really NEED it. As an example, did anyone really need email before it became ubiq…

OK, point taken; I need a better word than 'need'. How about "Make something people could really use?" I think this is just all about semantics, really. PG probably means the same thing I do. It's just that "want" evokes javascript solitaire games with emergency fake-spreadheet Boss Buttons. And often, people don't know what they want until you tell them. :-)
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