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Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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This had already been proposed years ago and postponed. The obvious result isn't that people will do the identification thing: instead people will use a VPN. It seems pretty clear to me.

If you're even remotely privacy concious in the UK you use a VPN 24/7 anyway.

All the major ISPs here are already logging tonnes of metadata at the TCP and DNS level

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.

This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…

Breasts wouldn’t even be too bad. But porn nowadays is very extreme. Anal gaping and massive dildos may make young teens think that that’s normal and that their first girlfriend will be into that.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

#43
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.

This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…

Today a 13 y/o boy can see more types of fruit in a supermarket in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined. Its an absolute stimulus overload. When will we bad fruit?

Or maybe things changing isn't necessarily a catastrophe 100% of the time?

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

#44

When I was a kid, I had a joint bank account with one of my parents. When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account, but it looked like a Visa card to anyone who was processing it. I recall being pleasantly surprised when I learned that I could use that card to "prove" I was over 18.

My son has a visa card tied to the app his pocket money gets paid into (Go Henry).

It's available from age 6.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

#45

When I was a kid, I had a joint bank account with one of my parents. When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account, but it looked like a Visa card to anyone who was processing it. I recall being pleasantly surprised when I learned that I could use that card to "prove" I was over 18.

> When I was around 16 I was able to get a "Check card", which behaved like a debit card in that I couldn't spend more money within was in the account

Not relevant to the conversation at hand, and perhaps this is US only, but using a debit card you can absolutely spend more than you have. Sometimes banks won’t remove the funds until the actual transaction posts. Most shops won’t post the transactions until evening. So in some cases you can double, triple, quadruple spend. Doing so of course is fraud.

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post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

Side note: Recently a teacher posted a thread on Reddit, that while discussing social media he mentioned Reddit and his class snickered. They teased him „Mr teacher are you a Reddit user?“ which he confusingly acknowledged to more snickering. He finally found out that teenagers regarded Reddit as a porn site like pornhub! Interesting perspective and maybe generational divide: if you are not a geek with special intere…

Give humans 5 mins with any new technology, they’ll use it to make porn.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is extremely dismissive of the issue, which does exist to some extent, even if its often over blown. The problem isn't "13 year olds being traumatized because they see sex on a screen" but "13 year olds developing porn addiction alongside their burgeoning sexuality". Porn addiction is a very real issue and todays youth is especially susceptible to it. Today a 13 y/o boy can see more breasts in an hour than every…

Today a 13 y/o boy can see more types of fruit in a supermarket in an hour than every one of his prior-digital age male ancestors have seen combined. Its an absolute stimulus overload. When will we bad fruit? Or maybe things changing isn't necessarily a catastrophe 100% of the time?

Fruit and nudity are not the same. Fruit doesn’t trigger hormonal responses, nudity does.

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.

Usually when politicians ressurect "think of the children" initiatives they want to distract attention from something. What's the current UK scandal, besides the obvious ongoing BRExit consequences?

> What's the current UK scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partygate

Re: Porn sites will be legally required to verify users' age using credit card

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post #4
post #2

Studies show that half of 11 to 13-year-olds have seen pornography at some point. What's missing from that stat is where they saw porn. Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, Imgur, etc are full of porn but aren't technically porn sites. If that's where kids are accessing porn then blocking porn sites will not fix the problem. Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it.

>Unless you understand what the problem actually is there will be no way to fix it. Oh that's easy. The problem is with society. No one is in any way damaged or traumatized cause they saw some sex on a screen at approximately 13 years old. Its ridiculous we go through the intrusive charade of trying to stop them. The problem is there is no problem.

There are a variety of documented undesirable side effects of heavy pornographic use [0],[1], including issues with mental health, sexual disfunction, and the ability to maintain normal romantic relationships.

It may be hard to stop, but that doesn’t mean there’s not a problem.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7835260/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

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