That must suck hard for Joe Rogan. He moved his show to their platform and now is getting massively moderated/censored. It's very interesting to see. In America, I always felt like people were very extreme with their freedom of expression, so much that you have so many abuses like the tea party and others that wouldn't exist in other countries that penalize forbidden speech (like denying the holocaust, being racist, etc.), limit politician air time, etc. So I'm guessing, like a lot of things in the US, private companies are now deciding to figure that part out.
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It’s not censorship, at all.
This is literally peak Capitalism, something anybody that finds their way to & stays on HN should very much understand.
Money is currently talking, Spotify - a company - is reacting to money talking.
Any other interpretation of this is… I don’t know, but definitely not correct.
In the end, we’re once again shown, money is all that matters.
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#45So we've decided as a society that any opinion that doesn't conform to the majority needs to be silenced? Scary.
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#46What are the chances Spotify cut Neil Young or Joni Mitchell a 100m dollar check?
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#47This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech.
What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.
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#48Spotify has played this perfectly.
First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract.
When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads.
Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not the controversial ones? This of course goes over poorly with both the pro (why remove them?) and anti (why not the problem ones?) camps.
Hope it was all worth it Spotify. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer company trying to destroy a formerly open ecosystem.
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#49I think Joe Rogan is an idiot. But, if anything, Spotify should have just posted a disclaimer somewhere stating these aren’t their views, with some links to reputable sources - even their own “Science Vs” podcast. It’s not like now the people who believed what he was saying are going to shrug their shoulders and start reading the “New England Journal of Medicine”.
The Joe Rogan Experience*
*The stories and information expressed here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything mentioned here as fact.
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#50If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness.
Yep, either they remain absolute, or they will bend in the wind at every new demand. Compromising with the modern version of book burners is not going to be a good long term strategy.
Worse, they spent a lot of money and knew what they were getting, so it just makes them look like idiots to investors.