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Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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The fact that both ads have been understood in so many different ways (here, on the blogosphere) shows that the message isn’t clear and in marketing that means trouble. Thus, being funny (for some more, for some less, for some not at all) or being talked about isn’t going to improve Microsoft’s image or sell more licenses (in particular of the problem child Vista). Apple, with the Mac vs. PC campaign, has a clear mes…

I have the opinion that the 'misunderstandings' largely consist of either preconceived notions of what the ad campaign would be like or, more commonly, anti-Microsoft sentiment repeatedly raising its ugly head and any Microsoft advertising campaign would not please those people. I think the ads are generally quite strong - kooky, memorable, unique and a talking point... if not particularly funny (FWIW, I didn't find…

Your first paragraph (the second part) is your opinion and how you perceived the ads. Fine. Everyone has (and should have) an opinion and a perception. It's personal. But for a marketer, the opinions and perceptions of the mass is what counts. If the "herd" doesn't move (preferably run) in the same direction then either my cowboys don't know the destination (the aim of the campaign, which is not to be funny or be talked about or be hip - those are the products of the campaign) or if they do, they don't know how to drive the cattle (which is, communicating where to go). In many cases (campaigns), the cowboys fail at both.

Ad hoc I don't have any ideas for a good Microsoft campaign. Any suggestion of mine, out of the blue, is shooting bullets in the air. Yeah, but it would be a nice way to feed my ego. :-) Using "hard" (like Mac vs. PC ads) or "soft" approach (by not mentioning the product explicitly) for the execution of the ads is almost secondary.

PS - I have spent most of my life as a developer and entrepreneur with Microsoft products (by choice). And I'm a Seinfeld fan-boy. But, that is not relevant when we're discussing this campaign.

Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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I can see where they're going with this, they're getting buzz about the ads by starting off with something "bad" and then gradually making it "better" - perhaps a nod to Vista? Anyway, the 4 odd minutes was worth it to see Gates do the robot.

Wait, I can create buzz by creating something bad and gradually making it better? That sounds brilliant - suddenly a lot of my projects have gained a new perspective...

exhibit a) cuil

I rest my case.

Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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post #13

It's ironic. Just months after a much publicized retirement that emphasized "Microsoft after Gates", Microsoft wants to build some brand. And who do they bring back? Is there Microsoft beyond Gates? More broadly, what does it take for a startup to outlive its founders?

A company whose well-being depends on the public charisma of its leaders is buying a ticket for a big crash. But then, software companies are short-lived, compared to any other kind. Software technology is all about getting obsolete quickly while selling the next big thing. The trick is perhaps to keep doing so from within the same company.

"A company whose well-being depends on the public charisma of its leaders is buying a ticket for a big crash."

Not always. If it is done correctly, the company can live off their legacy for very long.

But it has to be done right.

Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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post #13

It's ironic. Just months after a much publicized retirement that emphasized "Microsoft after Gates", Microsoft wants to build some brand. And who do they bring back? Is there Microsoft beyond Gates? More broadly, what does it take for a startup to outlive its founders?

I wouldn't recognise Steve Ballmer if I walked by him on the street. Unless he was begging..

Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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It's ironic. Just months after a much publicized retirement that emphasized "Microsoft after Gates", Microsoft wants to build some brand. And who do they bring back? Is there Microsoft beyond Gates? More broadly, what does it take for a startup to outlive its founders?

I wouldn't recognise Steve Ballmer if I walked by him on the street. Unless he was begging..

or yelling at people and throwing chairs..

Re: The second Seinfeld and Gates Microsoft ad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't need to convey a message, its just to get you all talking about it. Its working.

Yeah but we talk about microsoft all the time anyway. Who else is it reaching?

We talk about Microsoft all the time, but rarely is it as positive as this.

Bill Gates actually made me laugh.

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