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GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by ctoth »

Barrin92 wrote: post #34

okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.

I don't really want to get into the weeds here, but when you take a step back and squint a little bit it's hard to tell if this message was written by someone complaining about Canadian Truckers or about the 2020 Summer riots. Maybe let's lean a little more towards letting people express themselves and not bringing in the people with guns?

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Post by vmception »

nxmnxm99 wrote: post #15
uejfiweun wrote: post #4

The more and more that banks and other organizations do things like this, the more and more sense crypto makes in general.

I'm fairly ignorant of crypto, but wouldn't exchanges hold similar power?

yes, an exchange would hold similar power if fiat was desired at all, but it wouldn't prevent the crowdfunding from taking place. and because the crowdfund would still occur, the recipient can find an exchange or trade desk that would do the trade for fiat. right now, fiat crowdfunding sites are acting as the platform and exchange while being beholden to a payment processor behind the scenes. in the crypto model, the platform is just a GUI over something that can be interacted with either way, and the exchange is separate and optional.

so because there are trillions of dollars in crypto value already and many individuals already own that crypto, they would just collect from them to their own address or smart contract. websites just become GUIs for helping that and are also optional. then if fiat is actually desired for the cause, they can call any random trade desk and do a big order for fiat and have cash in the organization's bank account. for their supporters that don't already own crypto, it would be some friction for them to acquire it, but forget about those people and don't view how it would work from their perspective as the main perspective.

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by jimbob45 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #34

okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.

As an American that is (involuntarily) more concerned with the weather right now than Canadian politics…

What makes it unlawful?

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by givemeethekeys »

Barrin92 wrote: post #34

okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.

> unlawful protest

Please, give me examples of what you'd consider "lawful" protests of any significance.

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by colpabar »

bawolff wrote: post #28
exabrial wrote: post #2

It surprises me to see GoFundMe bow to political pressure, when the platform is designed to fund people that are standing up against governments.

I'm not following the whole thing but i think part of the controversy is the person collecting the money is suspected to have run off with it or suspected to intend to run off with it, or something. Regardless, i doubt people waving swastikas and demanding that democratic leaders be replaced with a dictatorship is exactly the type of "standing up to government" gofundme envisioned.

What swastikas?

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Post by jeromegv »

jimbob45 wrote: post #43
Barrin92 wrote: post #34

okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.

As an American that is (involuntarily) more concerned with the weather right now than Canadian politics… What makes it unlawful?

Blocking a street for many days is typically considered illegal.

I'm not saying that they should be prevented from protesting (and I strongly disagree with that protest), just answering the question as to why this might be illegal.

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by chana_masala »

bawolff wrote: post #28
exabrial wrote: post #2

It surprises me to see GoFundMe bow to political pressure, when the platform is designed to fund people that are standing up against governments.

I'm not following the whole thing but i think part of the controversy is the person collecting the money is suspected to have run off with it or suspected to intend to run off with it, or something. Regardless, i doubt people waving swastikas and demanding that democratic leaders be replaced with a dictatorship is exactly the type of "standing up to government" gofundme envisioned.

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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by manquer »

ctoth wrote: post #41
Barrin92 wrote: post #34

okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.

I don't really want to get into the weeds here, but when you take a step back and squint a little bit it's hard to tell if this message was written by someone complaining about Canadian Truckers or about the 2020 Summer riots. Maybe let's lean a little more towards letting people express themselves and not bringing in the people with guns?

There are peaceful ways to protest and expressing oneself, occupying a city this way and stealing food from a homeless shelter is not one of them that should be tolerated.

Edit: See my comment below for sources on homeless shelter

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