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As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Tell Google to make Android better.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

#42

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Is this just a knee-jerk thing to say because it seems like it must be true, and it's fashionable to take an alarmist position about any big company? Is there any critical thought behind such a statement?

Apple has not (in my recollection) sought to exert control over content of what is being said or shared among users. In fact, they seem to keep quite a distance from wanting to know or be responsible for that.

And you're claiming that iMessage is the "primary medium of communication of the citizens"? That is just a little overblown, don't you think?

I would argue, if you have that position, maybe you should spend your energy or concern on cable TV news and other media outlets, who do far worse, with far less share of their markets.

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#43

Their huge China derived revenue is an increasing problem for Apple from a company stance perspective. They have to increasingly walk a tightrope between servicing that market, kowtowing to the Chinese government, and upholding the values of a California based US Company.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

While I don't disagree so you have specific things to read on this topic?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Finally some good news in this bloodbath of a market

Yeah Apple are definitely not on the table for more anti-trust action as they have been squeezing out other major companies with large revenue streams based on information coming from Apple devices.

> revenue streams based on information coming from Apple devices.

Indeed. There is no evidence of them abusing streams of user information.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Quarter after quarter Tim Cook just mic drops these earnings. Remember all the “Apple is doomed, Tim is a bean counter” comments when Jobs handed over the reigns? Yea. Ok.

Nobody uses Facebook anymore. Apple is doomed. Google search results are terrible. Amazon is terrible.

And every cycle of quarterly results there’s surprise on HN.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might describe as an Apple product enjoyer; certainly not a hater and everyone seems so polarised. But objectively: monopoly is a bad thing. We’re still recovering from Microsoft’s dominance of desktop computing. Once you have a near monopoly it’s practically impregnable to disintegrate. As you have a wealthy company which is actively harming those efforts.

Objectivity, monopoly is not a bad thing. Even the law doesn’t consider monopoly a problem in itself, Abuse of monopoly is a problem.

> Under §2 of the Sherman Act 1890 every "person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize ... any part of the trade or commerce among the several States" commits an offence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law#Mo...

IANAL, and I'm assuming USA since that's where Apple has 90% market share on the young, but this seems to imply that monopoly in and on itself is illegal.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Is this just a knee-jerk thing to say because it seems like it must be true, and it's fashionable to take an alarmist position about any big company? Is there any critical thought behind such a statement? Apple has not (in my recollection) sought to exert control over content of what is being said or shared among users. In fact, they seem to keep quite a distance from wanting to know or be responsible for that. And y…

Well, they decided all of their phones are going to analyze your locally-stored photographs for child photography, and upload questionable photos to the cloud for human review...

They also block apps that involve politically controversial content, or content that they disagree with (e.g. pornography).

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Apple is the ‘Personal IBM’: a premium systems integrator where ‘you never blame yourself for buying Apple’ in the era when everyone has a handheld computer.

Edit - just to add that IBM dominated computing for a long time with this model. Perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that Apple has become so big in what is a much bigger market.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

#49

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Is this just a knee-jerk thing to say because it seems like it must be true, and it's fashionable to take an alarmist position about any big company? Is there any critical thought behind such a statement? Apple has not (in my recollection) sought to exert control over content of what is being said or shared among users. In fact, they seem to keep quite a distance from wanting to know or be responsible for that. And y…

They did remove Parler from the App Store, then reinstated it months later.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

There is no serious analysis that presents this scenario with any certainty.

Let’s not miss the forest for the trees. China will continue to grow and get very close to the size of the American economy.

China is already the worlds largest economy in terms of raw output (PPP terms).

China is already the worlds largest consumer market.

There’s a reasonable chance it exceeds USA in nominal GDP it if it grows at 5+% till 2030. This year they grew at 8.5 %

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