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LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

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Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#42

OK, a large corporation legal team doesn't understand the nuance of ownership of open-source software. Do we mock every single open source guy who displays the same amount of cluelessness about the inner workings of a business because I see plenty of that displayed here and everywhere else.

I am sure their lawyers know exactly how software licenses work.

I also bet that the list of dependencies they used for this mass email was probably not generated by a lawyer.

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#43

OK, a large corporation legal team doesn't understand the nuance of ownership of open-source software. Do we mock every single open source guy who displays the same amount of cluelessness about the inner workings of a business because I see plenty of that displayed here and everywhere else.

Ummm... I think the curl license is displayed pretty publicly. So, yes - this email deserves to be mocked roundly.

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#44

OK, a large corporation legal team doesn't understand the nuance of ownership of open-source software. Do we mock every single open source guy who displays the same amount of cluelessness about the inner workings of a business because I see plenty of that displayed here and everywhere else.

Yeah, they get their pay check to understand the nuances :)

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#45

I find it a bit sad that a tech literate group is bashing a non-literate group fo people. The entire reason your salary is much larger than many other career paths is because of your ability to deal with technology. The premise that when the less educated and informed try to question something they don't understand only to be left with pandering and jabs is disingenuous. The questions although perhaps better phrased…

I had the same thought - the e-mail really wasn't that unreasonable, coming from the perspective of somebody who didn't realize there was no support contract in place (and maybe didn't even understand how that could happen). Haxx's response seems similarly reasonable - we don't have a support contract, let's get one in place and then move forward from there. This really seems to be an object lesson that if you're depending on somebody for business-critical infrastructure, make sure they have a reason to support your business.

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#47

Why black out the company name? Confidentiality notices at the bottom of emails aren't legally binding, especially when it's an unsolicited email from a company you have no relationship with.

>Why black out the company name? Confidentiality notices at the bottom of emails aren't legally binding, especially when it's an unsolicited email from a company you have no relationship with.

It's explained in the article.

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#48

OK, a large corporation legal team doesn't understand the nuance of ownership of open-source software. Do we mock every single open source guy who displays the same amount of cluelessness about the inner workings of a business because I see plenty of that displayed here and everywhere else.

"Don't expect people to do work for you if you're not paying them" is obvious to anyone with a brain. I fail to see how nuance comes into this.

Re: LogJ4 Security Inquiry – Response Required

#50

"...The level of ignorance and incompetence shown in this single email is mind-boggling...no code I’ve ever been involved with or have my copyright use log4j and any rookie or better engineer could easily verify that..." Yeah, well, I've been quite shocked how rookie some F500 devs can be and how dysfunctional large corporations can also be. Probably what happened here is someone wrote a script that compiled the depe…

When I worked at a large, but not F500, company I had to once every 6-12 month or so fill in a spreadsheet with all third-party dependencies, with their licenses and some other info, the project I was working on used. I then emailed this to a mystery person and never heard anything back ever. I can easily see someone pulling out these spreadsheets and just emailing away without any developer, rookie or otherwise, being aware of what was happening.
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