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Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

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11 years is a pretty significant jump. More than that, it's bringing it from 30 to 19. Having an international pilot rating takes some time and effort; Being able to do this at 19 is pretty impressive in its own right. In terms of being a role-model for other women, showing that this can be done at 19 might be perpetually inspiring to the younger generation that otherwise sees 30 as pretty far away.

I think the question might more be the potential mischaracterisation of the world record being 18 and the female record being 19 as a "gender gap".

It would be instructive to understand what happened that would warrant that use of language.

Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

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Perhaps I'm not as rich as everyone else on HN, but I feel like this is a frivolous game for rich kids. The entry bar here is being able to afford planes, flight lessons, airport fees, fuel, hotels, etc. more so than anything else. At 19, that means rich parents. I came out distinctly underwhelmed with the accomplishment, and overwhelmed by the self-congratulatory copy. (Yes: I do know the amount of time and effort r…

FWIW, in addition to the other comments, I believe that it's the first time it's been done by a woman in a microlight. That may or may not change your mind, but it does require a significant amount of skill to pilot something like that for so long, handling so many different conditions.

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11 years is a pretty significant jump. More than that, it's bringing it from 30 to 19. Having an international pilot rating takes some time and effort; Being able to do this at 19 is pretty impressive in its own right. In terms of being a role-model for other women, showing that this can be done at 19 might be perpetually inspiring to the younger generation that otherwise sees 30 as pretty far away.

It's fascinating how much the ageing West is fascinated by feats accomplished by as young as possible people.

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So what? Yes people are richer, more gifted, more athletic than others. Can't we celebrate an achievement because not everyone can do it? All Olympic athletes have exceptional genetics and most people simply can't stand a chance no matter what they do. And most of them are not poor either, does it undermine the achievement? And it is not that much money. Clearly, it is not for the poor, but it is something achievable…

A flight hour at $100 means probably an expected $5,000 or more to get the license. Then add to that a $150,000 plane, which, even if you timeshare it with five others, bring the total up to $35,000. Add fuel, palm grease, plane maintenance and I wouldn't be surprised if you were approaching at minimum $50,000 which is much money. Then consider you can't work at the same time. Even if you get good sponsorship, it's l…

$5000 for a license is about right.

$150k for an ultralight plane is the top end, new. The one Zara is using for her (sponsored) world tour is in that category, but you can get a perfectly good UL plane for a quarter of that price. Fuel is standard car unleaded gas at a rate of ~10L/h, and because UL planes are not certified, maintenance is way cheaper, less palm grease too. Other costs you didn't talk about include insurance, parking, and aerodrome fees, let's say ~$2000/year if you don't timeshare.

So, let's say ok for $50000, but that's not a minimum, that's the comfort zone. The main point of UL is to be affordable. I put it on the same level as driving a nice car, like a BMW or a Tesla. I don't live in the US, I don't know the ultralight regulations there, but I wouldn't be surprised if half of the population could afford flying, assuming they can keep a budget.

As for the lost income, you can fly on week-ends. Many middle-class people have hobbies that take them a significant amount of time, flying is one of them. Of course, just learning how to fly is not getting you a "youngest woman solo" world record, but that's not lost income. As I said, Zara is building something here, it is work, she may even make money, and if she doesn't, we can certainly consider it an investment for her future.

Now, about genetics, it is true that genetics is something intrinsic to all living things and wealth is a construct. But the general idea is that some people are more lucky than others, and we shouldn't dismiss people achievements because it involves some luck, it always does. We could have objections if it only involved luck (ex: winning the lottery), or if it is presented as not involving luck at all (ex: too many "success stories"). But what Zara is doing definitely requires her to do her part and she explicitly acknowledges her luck "I was born into a family of aviators and was lucky to have great role models in my parents and grandparents". So, all good.

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The route is interesting: https://flyzolo.com/route/ I can understand some of the latitude changes to reach shorter ocean crossings, but it looks like the route was stretched in various places to touch more countries. Very cool journey.

Notably, did not land in China... unless you count Taipei ROC.

She discovered she'd have to quarantine if she landed there so had to avoid both chinese and NK airspaces.

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Indeed! And I wonder what happens if there's a delay (weather, repairs, etc) or change of plans, some countries are fairly strict about entry dates and that type of thing.

I believe weather forced her into an unscheduled stop in Indonesia, and she was delayed by quite a few days as a result while paperwork was sorted. Ofc the problem is also the knock-on effect it has on the rest of the arrangements.

Weather also forced her to stay longer than expected in Alaska, causing her russian visa to expire - 26 days in total.

Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

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This is pretty amazing. I'm exhausted after flying for an hour, let alone weeks. Really, really hats off to her. If you've got a bit of spare time, you might like this video series, which features a bunch of young US male pilots flying across the Atlantic in a small GA plane. It is quite an interesting journey. And no, there isn't a toilet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Uf-ynoDUE&list=PLoruKoPAfK...

That video w/ Guthmiller in a Cessna 210 was great. That plane seats 6 on paper but the back seat was filled by an auxilliary gas tank. The cabin width is narrower than my old 1997 VW Jetta!! It's like crossing the northern Atlantic in an original VW Beetle!

Isn't a Pipistrel Sinus 912 smaller than Cessna 210? Two young Indian women crossed the Atlantic and Pacific on it 3 yrs ago. Aarohi Pandit and Keithair Misquitta. I think plans changed and Aarohi completed most of the journey solo. I checked for long video of their flight but couldn't find any, if anyone has it please link.

[1] https://www.thewiaaproject.com/stories/little-giants-who-con...

[2] https://theweexpedition.wordpress.com/author/theweexpedition...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarohi_Pandit

Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

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Good for her. I read a bio of Amelia Earhart when I was eleven. It made a huge impression on me. I hope Zara inspires many future generations.

There's also two early-twenties women who flew Atlantic and Pacific 3 yrs ago - Aarohi Pandit and Keithair Misquitta. I think plans changed and Aarohi completed most of the journey solo [1][2][3]. There are also cockpit videos of women pilots from across the globe on YouTube [4].

[1] https://www.thewiaaproject.com/stories/little-giants-who-con...

[2] https://theweexpedition.wordpress.com/author/theweexpedition...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarohi_Pandit

[4] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkHsqIdt3tLrYlfEe7OOG...

Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

11 years is a pretty significant jump. More than that, it's bringing it from 30 to 19. Having an international pilot rating takes some time and effort; Being able to do this at 19 is pretty impressive in its own right. In terms of being a role-model for other women, showing that this can be done at 19 might be perpetually inspiring to the younger generation that otherwise sees 30 as pretty far away.

It's fascinating how much the ageing West is fascinated by feats accomplished by as young as possible people.

This is not a western exclusive. See Russia’s strongest little boy for an example.

Re: FlyZolo – Youngest Woman Solo

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That video w/ Guthmiller in a Cessna 210 was great. That plane seats 6 on paper but the back seat was filled by an auxilliary gas tank. The cabin width is narrower than my old 1997 VW Jetta!! It's like crossing the northern Atlantic in an original VW Beetle!

Isn't a Pipistrel Sinus 912 smaller than Cessna 210? Two young Indian women crossed the Atlantic and Pacific on it 3 yrs ago. Aarohi Pandit and Keithair Misquitta. I think plans changed and Aarohi completed most of the journey solo. I checked for long video of their flight but couldn't find any, if anyone has it please link. [1] https://www.thewiaaproject.com/stories/little-giants-who-con... [2] https://theweexpediti…

Yes! A Sinus is TINY. Cockpit like a Miata.
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