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What criteria would you apply for independence? The ratio of the locally decided budget over overall government spending in the region?
I would restrict the top list to UN member states + a few places that aren't covered by the UN. Scotland and Wales are covered by the UN via the UK, so they shouldn't be listed. Ideally I would have them as separate pages within the UK.
A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK
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#42What about versioning/historical data? Would be interesting as well and with daily checks this should be possible in a fine grained way
As an example, Barbados:
(statement) head of state (P35): Queen Elizabeth II (Q9682)
(qualifier) start time (P580): 30 November 1966
(qualifier) end time (P582): 29 November 2021
(statement) head of state (P35): Sandra Mason (Q9333540)
(qualifier) start time (P582): 30 November 2021
the second statement then has the "preferred" rank (the first has a "normal" rank, and there is also a "deprecated" rank for inaccurate information)
See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q244#P35 for a better visualisation than HN's comment allows
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#43[0] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_every_pol...
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#44Very cool, thank you for your efforts! You mention that it is hard to check whether information is up to date on the CIA website. I see that Wikidata includes both a "start" and "retrieved" timestamp - as many offices are appointed for a set term, do you think it could be helpful to also include an expected end of term date or would that just make it easier to draw the wrong conclusions from outdated data?
Interesting point! I wonder if https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P8554 would be a good model for this? Perhaps this is also a bit different between countries - in some, I think the government has to resign while in others the term change is sort of constitutional-automatic...
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If you keep posting flamebait to HN and using the site for political battle, we're going to end up having to ban you. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We've had to ask you about this many times already. Not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28039859 (Aug 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24537038 (Sept 2020) https://news…
Politics is OK only when it suits your views?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
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Politics is OK only when it suits your views?
That's a common sentiment when people see someone they happen to agree with getting moderated, but no - that's far from the case, and I can assure you the people with opposite views feel the same way. That is, they're just as sure that we're siding with your team. I assume it's no different with refs and sports. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor…
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Politics is OK only when it suits your views?
That's a common sentiment when people see someone they happen to agree with getting moderated, but no - that's far from the case, and I can assure you the people with opposite views feel the same way. That is, they're just as sure that we're siding with your team. I assume it's no different with refs and sports. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor…
The first comment that I searched for to look at its parent comments was created 11 months ago by an account 11 months old... "HN is a right wing cesspool"... I truly believe that he was new here, or trolling.
But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then the "HN is a right wing cesspool" comment that was not hidden...
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a common sentiment when people see someone they happen to agree with getting moderated, but no - that's far from the case, and I can assure you the people with opposite views feel the same way. That is, they're just as sure that we're siding with your team. I assume it's no different with refs and sports. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor…
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 The first comment that I searched for to look at its parent comments was created 11 months ago by an account 11 months old... "HN is a right wing cesspool"... I truly believe that he was new here, or trolling. But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then th…
You can't draw any conclusion at all from a pair of random data points (or rather, you can draw any conclusion at all). Moderation isn't a total ordering—it's a stochastic process that mostly works with random samples.
> The first comment that I searched for to look at its parent comments was created 11 months ago by an account 11 months old... "HN is a right wing cesspool"... I truly believe that he was new here, or trolling.
There are countless other examples. If you don't see how commonly commenters say this kind of thing, it must be because you're not noticing it (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 The first comment that I searched for to look at its parent comments was created 11 months ago by an account 11 months old... "HN is a right wing cesspool"... I truly believe that he was new here, or trolling. But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then th…
> But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then the "HN is a right wing cesspool" comment that was not hidden You can't draw any conclusion at all from a pair of random data points (or rather, you can draw any conclusion at all). Moderation isn't a total ordering—it's a stochastic process that mostly work…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 The first comment that I searched for to look at its parent comments was created 11 months ago by an account 11 months old... "HN is a right wing cesspool"... I truly believe that he was new here, or trolling. But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then th…
> But either way, that comment from /u/jessaustin that was completely hidden (unless you enable show-dead) was less harsh (it was probably even just a fact) then the "HN is a right wing cesspool" comment that was not hidden You can't draw any conclusion at all from a pair of random data points (or rather, you can draw any conclusion at all). Moderation isn't a total ordering—it's a stochastic process that mostly work…