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Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

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Re: Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

#43

VR makes my physically ill. Even thinking about it now makes me feel unwell.

I think OP's referring to nausea.

VR triggers migraines for me. Playing games on PSVR that is. I think there's some hope for you (potentially) that better tech will make you less nauseous.

For me, it's highly unlikely that new tech will bring any improvements as I'd think it's the bright light shining right into my retina (when I'd love nothing more than a e-ink monitor without any backlight for my daily work).

Nevertheless, I'm keen to try. I'm super keen on something like glasses, with some AR displayed on top of the glass rather than the light shining into my eyes.

Re: Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when competitors are $300 Something tells me Apple doesn't consider Oculus quest much of a competitor. The Quest is 99.99% used for gaming. Essentially nothing else. I doubt gaming will even be much of a focus for the Apple headset.

It’s totally a competitor. The quest is now being marketed for work. The new Horizon Workrooms has great reviews for people holding virtual meetings. Besides, what other stahndslone headset is being shipped in any real volume but the quest? Meta has hinted at future AR updates to the quest so that should compete even more with apples goals.

> Besides, what other stahndslone headset is being shipped in any real volume but the quest?

I'm sure Apple is looking at Meta's stuff in the same way that they looked at Blackberry's stuff while designing the iPhone, but the Quest isn't going to be Apple's "north star" for the project. Apple will have their own, unique first principles for this product category.

Re: Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

#47

Is there any reason why even right now you can't put all the tech in a pair of glasses and have all the processing in a power bank sized device you put in your pocket, connected via USB-C or other cord?

Magic Leap's ML1 headset [0] works like this, but you still end up with a decent amount of heat-generating stuff on your face.

The "power pack" is the power bank sized thing with the battery and a smartphone caliber motherboard (ARM application processor and a mobile GPU).

There are around half a dozen cameras on the headset, and the GPU is too taxed generating content visuals to do real-time localization and eye tracking. Even if you had enough bandwidth to get all the frames down the cable, it would still be a difficult problem to solve on the GPU while still meeting latency requirements. So instead, there's a dedicated "vision processor" on the headset that processes all of the camera inputs and sends the localization results to the GPU. This vision processor chip gets quite hot.

The projectors themselves can also get pretty hot, especially if you need to crank the brightness up. Difractive optics have a lot of losses, unfortunately...

[0] I worked on parts of ML1 at Magic Leap, but no longer work there.

Re: Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

#48

Why would I want this by the way? I don't mind cheaper headsets as impulse purchases to just wait for better games and experiences to come out. But at this price I need to feel like I'm missing something and don't feel that way, am I missing something?

Robert Scoble has been saying it’s more of a home theater & computer monitor replacement. So instead of a 4k HDR 80” screen and accompanying surround sound, you get one of these. Instead of a Pro Display XDR, this headset will provide you with a virtual display that is just as good if not better. He also has been saying there is some insane tech partnership with the NFL to bring an immersive viewing experience to the…

It could only be a replacement for people that only used home entertainment systems alone

For a family it requires 4x of these at $8,000

Or just the additional form of entertainment alongside existing home entertainment

Re: Gurman: Apple's headset will likely cost $2k and have two CPUs

#50

Why would I want this by the way? I don't mind cheaper headsets as impulse purchases to just wait for better games and experiences to come out. But at this price I need to feel like I'm missing something and don't feel that way, am I missing something?

It's hard to say without the product actually being released, but I use a lot of Apple devices, and my main way of consuming media right now is my Apple TV. I'm in the market for upgrading my TV and I'd sooner pay Apple $2k for a headset than Samsung for a large form TV running Android, subsidized by adware. I'd enjoy seeing such a device also replace my Xbox and PC for gaming.

I see, for now doesnt appeal to me and it doesnt have to, will just watch without fomo then
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