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Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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What ideas in particular have you found are unfairly flagged to oblivion on HN?

Why should I tell you when it would be flagged immediately and nobody would see it anyway?

Something tells me that these ideas aren't legitimately debatable conservative ideas.

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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In interpreting this result, one should keep in mind that an active parasite infection produces worse results for respiratory infections of all kinds. Taking ivermectin reduces parasite load. The size and location of the study suggests that reporting of COVID-19 infections was by presentation, meaning asymptomatic or minimal infections were probably not counted. tl;dr: These results will probably not translate well t…

I've seen other similar results, and I don't share this skepticism. I can't find the exact study, but here's one on hospital staff in Argentina: https://www.cureus.com/articles/64807-prophylactic-role-of-i... I just don't see how parasites would explain all these results. I do see how monetary incentives would play into maligning them though.

Scurrilous accusations violate posting rules.

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Why would they apologise ? People were literally taking the horse de-wormer formulations because they couldn't buy it legally.

Source? No one was taking horse de-wormer that I’m aware of. It was a fake story propagated by the rolling stone magazine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/15/fac...

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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This is an observational study, not strong enough to make any conclusions; The determination if a patient had taken ivermectin was self-reporting. There is no control of the dosage and how much time the patients took ivermectin before getting covid.

This is at best an indication of the need for better studies about the subject, but considering that Brazil's president is rabid pro-ivermectin and this was made in a medium city in a region favorable at the president, take this with a grain of salt.

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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This is a completely nonsensical dismissal unless you want to claim the outcome for people who actually get ill is different for those who wore masks versus those who didn’t. And be sure to keep in mind that the vast majority of infections occur at home where I sincerely doubt people are wearing masks.

The point is that if you have a parasite infection, treating that is a good idea. If you don't, then treating it will not help you. If you want not to die from COVID-19, getting fully vaccinated is the way. If you want not to catch and spread it (vaccinated or no) wear a mask when you might be exposed or expose others. If you can't get vaccinated, anyway do things to be healthy -- treat any parasite infections, eat w…

In other news, the sky is blue, but that is not at all what this article is about. And you preaching about how your favorite measure, unquantifiably, is better than this measure, does not add anything meaningful to the article.

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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I've seen other similar results, and I don't share this skepticism. I can't find the exact study, but here's one on hospital staff in Argentina: https://www.cureus.com/articles/64807-prophylactic-role-of-i... I just don't see how parasites would explain all these results. I do see how monetary incentives would play into maligning them though.

Scurrilous accusations violate posting rules.

I'm sorry, I wasn't suggesting YOU had monetary incentives, this is just a tech news forum.

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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Strange conclusion to draw. Ivermectin is an antiparasitic, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect. Joe never provided any evidence for his claims, and the studies have been problematic to say the least. [1]

So he remains completely wrong, as usual. This single study from "Cureus" seems to correlate that treating your parasites with an antiparasitic could help you recover from COVID in one specific part of the world though.

https://www.science.org/content/article/two-elite-medical-jo...

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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No, he was not right. The correct interpretation is, "where parasite infections are endemic, treat that and your health will benefit." And, wear your mask.

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Nobody "dogmatically hates the drug". It is an excellent treatment for parasites, cheap and well-tolerated as parasite treatments go.

Many have reason to hate people who advocate for dosing with anti-parasite drugs instead of getting vaccinated, because it makes people die. Many people have family who were not protected, and died, unnecessarily. I am not among those. But my brother rejected vaccination, and his wife and kids all got COVID. (He was away.)

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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Pre-infection prophylaxis is not the same as treatment for infection. That's where a large number of people had things wrong.

All the big proponents of Ivermectin I've seen always insisted on the importance of early treatment. I feel like the "anti" crowd purposely insisted on the null results in other situations.

This study had people stop ivermectin when they tested positive.

Re: Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

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Parasites double your chances of getting severe Covid? Shouldn’t people be taking it anyway then, as well as wearing a mask?

Right? Ivermectin is reportedly extremely safe at normal doses, and parasites are an issue everywhere I would think, to an extent. Why not advocate for screening for parasites if getting rid of them has such a dramatic effect?

They do screen for parasites in areas where parasites are a problem, principally the tropics. People who live there live with the parasites because they cannot afford treatment.
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