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AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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Yup! :)

so how is it getting around the double NAT problem? Are users acting as bridges (like Skype super nodes) or is it going though aerofs's servers?

An aerofs server is used to help establish a "connection", more or less along the lines of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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AeroFS isn't merely useful for security reasons (inside firewall), but for moving huge files around a LAN. Dropbox does do some LAN syncing on individual accounts, but being able to share big media files during the capture/edit/publishing process would be a great use case. In a lot of those cases, on location, you have Gig-E or better locally, but a 3G/4G hotspot for publishing a final stream (and general Internet use), so something cloud based isn't viable.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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This sounds like a problem only techies have, and already have solutions for, like centralized file servers. I don't sync files, I keep one copy of my files, and access them over the network.

I have a large music/photo collection I sync with AeroFS. I have multiple machines on my network with ten's of GB of spare disk space, so this provides a good backup policy without needing to consider how I should back up all that data off a central file server.

That's a good backup policy until your building burns down. Better do some off-site backups too!

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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I'm always suspicious of great new infrastructure that is free. Exactly how are you going to make money? Presumably by waiting until i rely on this and have invested time and effort into moving all my data into the system - and then you will impose some pricing model. I prefer to know upfront how much you are going to charge for what.

I guess the obvious way is to charge for in-the-cloud storage - using your own servers / disk space is free, to have an extra copy online you pay for the storage.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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This sounds like a problem only techies have, and already have solutions for, like centralized file servers. I don't sync files, I keep one copy of my files, and access them over the network.

What about backups and offline access? Those are the two main drawbacks of 'one copy to rule them all'.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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Co-founder of AeroFS here :-) 1. Symbolic link support is currently planned, I'd go to http://ae.ro/qc9Ey5 and upvote it. It'll allow us to notify you when it's done. 2. Bigger plans are in the works, stay tuned! 3. Headless support has been actually available for a while for most linux distributions, check out the "aerofs-cli" and "aerofs-sh" commands.

Most NAS have CPUs that don't easily run the JVM. I wish AeroFS could run on my Synology NAS. That would be the killer feature for me.

I personally have the WD MyBook live (http://blog.marc-seeger.de/2011/03/20/the-western-digital-my...), it has an 800 MHz APM82181 (PPC Architecture) with 256 MB RAM, that should run most headless file sync stuff :)

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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Co-founder of AeroFS here :-) 1. Symbolic link support is currently planned, I'd go to http://ae.ro/qc9Ey5 and upvote it. It'll allow us to notify you when it's done. 2. Bigger plans are in the works, stay tuned! 3. Headless support has been actually available for a while for most linux distributions, check out the "aerofs-cli" and "aerofs-sh" commands.

If you implement one feature, I will switch immediately: multiple accounts running at the same time. I want to be able to sync my work stuff completely separate from my personal stuff. No "Shared Folders" solution or jazz like that. Dropbox seems totally unwilling to support this officially, so if you did, that'd be an awesome differentiator.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but, last time I checked (a while ago) you could share different folders with different computers. For example, you could make a "work" share and sync it only with coworkers, and a "personal" share and sync it with your personal computers.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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If you implement one feature, I will switch immediately: multiple accounts running at the same time. I want to be able to sync my work stuff completely separate from my personal stuff. No "Shared Folders" solution or jazz like that. Dropbox seems totally unwilling to support this officially, so if you did, that'd be an awesome differentiator.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but, last time I checked (a while ago) you could share different folders with different computers. For example, you could make a "work" share and sync it only with coworkers, and a "personal" share and sync it with your personal computers.

The problem is if me and Joe use Dropbox for personal use, and then we come up with a great startup idea and want to start hacking on it. On like day 5 of working on this idea, you'll want to start sharing/saving some PDFs or excel sheets or something. Ideally you'd be able to create a new Dropbox for this project and run two clients on your machine, one for your personal Dropbox and one for your new project Dropbox, and Joe can do the same.

But because you can't run two clients at once, you can't do this. You can create "Personal" and "Project" folders in your existing Dropbox and sync to different machines, but Joe now needs to use your Dropbox account and he can't sync his personal account. Or you both use the web client, except you're basically using FreeDrive from 1999. Or you use an entirely different file sharing service like ZumoDrive, which is kind of silly.

I get that multi-client support for Dropbox is probably a niche feature and will probably lead to jerks like me using 5 accounts instead of 1, so they don't do it. And there are workarounds like Dropboxen that allow me to sort of have multiple Dropbox instances running on my machine if I have multiple user accounts. But man it'd be nice if multiple Dropbox instances running was a native feature instead of having the same, "Ok, I filled out the Articles of Organization and put them in my Dropbox so just refer to our filing number from there."; "Why don't you put them in MY Dropbox and YOU just refer it from there?" conversation with Joe.

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