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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Post by jeroenhd »

ignoramous wrote: post #22

> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

One thing that could work to warn users of impending shutdowns is to use the captive portal detection browsers come with to redirect users to a page with information before shutting the service down. This way the administrators can inform their users without having to mess with DNS traffic and commit mitm crimes just to get people to switch DNS providers.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Post by dreamyfigment »

tw04 wrote: post #17
olivierduval wrote: post #14

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Actually : it's a really nice move to keep this domain up and under control for one year! Moreover, I guess that people relying on this service will soon start to see the errors, go to the website, understand the situation and move on... so 1 year is quite enough I think. It's not like it was a service people use once a year...

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After what happened with uBlock I wouldn't trust anyone to continue a project like this. Much better to shut it down and to allow the community to come up with an alternative.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Post by [deleted] »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #30
KronisLV wrote: post #20

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That's funny, because it's not unheard of for even simple unattended updates to break something, for example: https://blog.kronis.dev/everything%20is%20broken/debian-and-... (the tone of that blog post of mine is a bit vitriolic and the advice isn't exactly serious, but the fact of the matter is that sooner or later things will break)

OK, fair enough. I guess you can minimally complicate this by updating an exactly identical machine/boot drive first, and then immediately alerting if health checks fail on that. But it really doesn't seem that bad to me. I've run a VPS that's been self-updating continuously since Feb 2019, and I've not had many breaking issues with the OS.

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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Post by robertheadley »

danuker wrote: post #40
ignoramous wrote: post #22

> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

> it might mean some really angry users > a free offering You see, anything free should be treated as a privilege, not expected to last forever. Have you considered what you can do when the free providers either kick the can, or start charging fair value?

Yes, but that isn't how support works. If you can avoid angry wrong people gumming up your support channels, the better.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

#47

Post by tinus_hn »

robertheadley wrote: post #46
danuker wrote: post #40

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> it might mean some really angry users > a free offering You see, anything free should be treated as a privilege, not expected to last forever. Have you considered what you can do when the free providers either kick the can, or start charging fair value?

Yes, but that isn't how support works. If you can avoid angry wrong people gumming up your support channels, the better.

Or, if you’re done with the free project, you can just close the support channels.
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