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Why did they do this to him??
Does that really matter?
Uhh.. yes, I want to know the reasons for taking away and searching through a random person's computer
Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China
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#42Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/
U.S. CBP reported that they conducted 40k electronic searches in 2019, or about 1-in-10000 travelers. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/speeches-and-statements/cbp-sta...
A friendly reminder, this is unconstitutional if you're a us citizen. However, they can still absolutely ruin your day.
On entry to any country, I sync my devices and wipe them.
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#43Unfortunately both my phone and laptop originated in China.
Can they be trusted?
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#44Unfortunately both my phone and laptop originated in China. Can they be trusted?
Depends on what you mean by "originated" and "trusted". As an example I'd advice against shopping for Huawei phones running 'HarmonyOS' while on holiday in Mainland China. But you probably already know this.
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#45While working for a US multinational I was given a list of countries that when visiting I have to have a formatted/new/empty laptop at the border.
The list included the US.
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#46The shocking fact is that the international community allows such an event to be held in a country where one cannot safely take a phone or computer. But since that could be said for many other “good” countries, then I suppose it becomes normal to engage with these “bad” countries despite their human rights violations. And that is a big source of cynicism for many people: if the “good and righteous” international community does business with countries like China and they themselves engage in the same human rights violations, then the ethical base for these countries’ legal system is demolished. And when the legal system is completely debased, then anything goes. Crimes can no longer be defined and therefore punished. A citizen’s revenge towards its government is no longer a crime. Just another act that can no longer be judged by any ethical standards (other than one’s subjective moral one). When those institutions entrusted with upholding society’s ethical values through the law (ie the right to privacy, the right to a fair legal process, etc.) no longer abide to the law themselves, anarchy ensues. Just watch the consequences of the international community failing to hold responsible those who created the conditions for your pandemic, for the sake of their commercial interests.
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#47Work for a European company and we have the same rules for Russia, the US and China. I don't know the full list of countries but those are the only two relevant for my travels.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
U.S. CBP reported that they conducted 40k electronic searches in 2019, or about 1-in-10000 travelers. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/speeches-and-statements/cbp-sta...
A friendly reminder, this is unconstitutional if you're a us citizen. However, they can still absolutely ruin your day. On entry to any country, I sync my devices and wipe them.
I believe that the current state of affairs is that warrantless searches of US citizens’ devices at (or near) the borders are constitutional.
https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/merchant-v-mayo... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/come-back-warrant-cong...
This really is a shameful state of affairs that Congress should fix, but I’m not holding my breath.