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New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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You don't even know that the replacement thing isn't still sugar. People can't spend their soda money on candy? What if they spend it on cigarettes?

Quote from start if thread said " total sugar sales are down by almost 20 percent, driven largely by falling soda purchases", so at least we know they didn't buy candy with the money.

We know they didn't buy only candy with the money.

Maybe they bought candy and cigarettes.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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Wait, people still drink soda?

No. No one drinks soda. Coca Cola Corporation’s revenue of 40 billion dollars a year is entirely fabricated. It is the next Enron. When you see a person drinking a soda, try touching them. They are a hologram, an attempt by a fading company to convince people of their relevance.

Having substituted all soda with clear water, humanity has entered a new era of peace and prosperity. War is a thing of the past now that Man is hydrated.

Peace reigns over the Earth as fusion powered reactionless spacecraft take to the skies. Our third space colony is prospering and we are on the brink of conquering Death itself.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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Did they also study whether total sugar sales rose in the cities next to Seattle? I can imagine that some price sensitive soda drinkers just drove to the nearest store outside of Seattle to buy their sodas.

This makes zero sense. A gallon of gas is about $4.00, the idea that someone would spend all that gas money to avoid a tax of 1.75 cents/oz just doesn't pass the sniff test.

People grocery shop closer to their work (if it's outside of Seattle) if they can avoid these taxes.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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You're hungry, so you eat something. When you run low on food, you go to the supermarket. Soda has increased in price, so you spend your soda money on something else. The next time you're hungry, that's what's in your kitchen. This is only better if the thing you replace the soda with is better for you than the soda. Without any data on what that is, you don't know if that's true.

Eating sugar makes your body/mind crave more sugar though… regardless of consumed calories.

Evidence? I use sugar as an energy source. The more energy I use (or plan to use) the more sugar I need. That's a biological necessity, not a craving.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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post #14

Did they also study whether total sugar sales rose in the cities next to Seattle? I can imagine that some price sensitive soda drinkers just drove to the nearest store outside of Seattle to buy their sodas.

This makes zero sense. A gallon of gas is about $4.00, the idea that someone would spend all that gas money to avoid a tax of 1.75 cents/oz just doesn't pass the sniff test.

My parents would drive 30 extra minutes to save pennies on gas. I have no doubt they'd do the same to dodge a soda tax.

People don't think logically so long as they feel like they're saving money.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

#47
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Wait, people still drink soda?

Soda is delicious for those of us that like sweet foods. It's certainly not for everyone, but I could honestly drink soda and eat cookies nonstop all day if I didn't limit myself to at most 1 can in a day and purposely don't purchase cookies to have in the house.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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Armed with three years of grocery shopping data, researchers found that total sugar sales are down by almost 20 percent, driven largely by falling soda purchases. This isn't the right definition of success. The first minimal requirement for this to be a successful initiative is that the community lost weight overall. Or even gained weight, but more slowly than other communities. If they could prove that it would be a…

To be honest your post sounds like it's coming straight out of the sugar industry PR book.

1. Increase burden of scientific evidence/cast scientific evidence in doubt by saying it's not conclusive enough

2. Assert that reducing sugar is not working because people will just get their calorie input otherwise.

3. Blame fat/daemonize fat, that's what the sugar industry has done very successfully over the last decades.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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post #45

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Eating sugar makes your body/mind crave more sugar though… regardless of consumed calories.

Evidence? I use sugar as an energy source. The more energy I use (or plan to use) the more sugar I need. That's a biological necessity, not a craving.

They're talking about refined sugar, which your body does not "need", other carbohydrates can be turned into sugar by your body just fine.

Re: New evidence suggests that Seattle’s soda tax is working well

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eating sugar makes your body/mind crave more sugar though… regardless of consumed calories.

Evidence? I use sugar as an energy source. The more energy I use (or plan to use) the more sugar I need. That's a biological necessity, not a craving.

That argument relies on the assumption that we only eat/consume if we need energy. Thank you you have just solved obesity, because nobody eats more than the energy they need!
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