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Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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Been using them for about a week, very happy with it. Regional results (especially since the last update) feel as automatic as google. While I still hope they’ll add my suggestion of a bang for region switches, most queries I do don’t need one, and it properly switches between English and German. All of the DDG bangs. Seriosuly, search without bangs is nothing I’d ever want to go back to. Built-In Domain Blacklist. G…

What's a "bang"?

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

#42

Founder here. Thanks for submitting it, but I am afraid there is not much to see right now. We are still in closed beta (mostly to control cost and gradually improve user experience), with much more left to do. There are some examples of what Kagi can do in my twitter feed. [1] Main idea of Kagi is to offer a paid search product, where user is also the customer and is central to everything that happens. Btw. Kagi is…

Hi Vladimir,

Thanks for the invite.

Please start monetizing : we want to support this effort ( I understand it is a difficult decision ). Would subscribe if reasonable.

Register a new HN handle here for comms about Kagi.

I see gimples of the future where my search engine behaves/looks differently depending if I am researching IT issues or looking for clothing.

Good luck.

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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Hi Freediver, Would you mind telling us a little of the story about Kagi the company behind the product? It’s really interesting to hear that you’re using Crystal. Where are you guys based and how have you bootstraped? Good luck and keep at it, this is a really interesting project.

Sure. We are running on a tight budget, completely bootstrapped by funds from my previous exit. Trying to control cost and all that while establishing product-market fit, which is the reason the beta is closed for now. Instead of starting with technology, I started by selecting people that I can work with and are crazy enough to accept working on such an ambitious idea. It turned out that they really liked Crystal an…

As someone who happily pays for many "free" products/services (like DNS service through NextDNS), I am super excited about products like yours, where I can get a better product and more/better features for money. I received my invite this morning and I am super excited to check it out. I wish you all the best of luck and I am really rooting for your success!

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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There have been a couple of discussions on HN lately [0][1] about the current state of search engine results, be it served by Google, Bing, DDG or other. Also, it seems like there is a lot of work on search engine alternatives as in the case of Kagi and also here [2] to name but a few. Of all alternatives, Kagi seems to be off to a very good start and I personally am a very happy beta user.

What I have not seen so far being discussed anywhere, though, is the Willingness to Pay [3] for a search engine alternative, say like Kagi. What do you think is an acceptable monthly subscription price? What do you think is an expensive price? What do you think is a prohibitively expensive price?

Here is my take on those questions: 5$, 10$, 20$.

UPDATE: I'll summarize all answers and post the results here for reference.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29782186

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29772136

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29690877

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness_to_pay

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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If I can be frank, nothing google has done or is doing with my search data bothers me in the slightest. If it uses my data to help target advertising - so be it. It doesn't bother me either as I use uBlock. So whether I pay or not, the only thing I care about is the quality of my search results. What makes you think you can do better than a company with over 20 years experience, 10s of 1000s of engineers working on t…

In my case, Google doesn't work too well. I usually have something in mind when I search, and Google doesn't offer any customization for me to put it in. Instead, it shows me what it prefers. For example, I frequently need to switch languages and/or regions. You can't do that with Google (except maybe logging in and switching some settings but lmao, I need a switch). No matter what I do, Google reads my IP range and…

The infuriating thing is that Google used to do this right. It used to be possible to go to Google.de and see the German results for instance. Now I always get the Swedish results (I live in Sweden). I often have searches where I want results from Sweden, Germany Australia/NZ or general English. I have to become increasingly elaborate with my search terms to get them (essentially search with whole sentences in the desired language), it's really annoying and I'm surprised how Google could get the so wrong.

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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post #41

Been using them for about a week, very happy with it. Regional results (especially since the last update) feel as automatic as google. While I still hope they’ll add my suggestion of a bang for region switches, most queries I do don’t need one, and it properly switches between English and German. All of the DDG bangs. Seriosuly, search without bangs is nothing I’d ever want to go back to. Built-In Domain Blacklist. G…

What's a "bang"?

It's the "!" character that you put in front of certain things, like "!g" ("bang gee") for searching Google through DuckDuckGo.

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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post #44

There have been a couple of discussions on HN lately [0][1] about the current state of search engine results, be it served by Google, Bing, DDG or other. Also, it seems like there is a lot of work on search engine alternatives as in the case of Kagi and also here [2] to name but a few. Of all alternatives, Kagi seems to be off to a very good start and I personally am a very happy beta user. What I have not seen so fa…

For purely search, 10$ is about the max I would pay.

For a full equivalent to Google's services including Maps, Docs, Drive, etc, I'd be happy to go much higher up to 50$.

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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omg they let me apply from/to dates on search results, I'm in love just got my invite after a couple days of signing up, will be trying it out, but so far no stackoverflow/github issue clones, and they allow setting "preferred" and "muted" domains, I might pay whatever they ask I'm keen to know their business plan however. Hope they don't get acquihired for the algorithms, never to offer these features again...

To be fair, Google also lets you filter search results by time ranges. The muted domains sound awesome, though!

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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Somebody asked the other day. Kagi pay for api access to both Google and Bing.

Interesting. How does one can access such APIs ? Do you need to know someone with an important position at Google ?

No, I don't think so. Try searching: https://kagi.com/search?q=google+search+api or similar in your preferred search engine.

Re: Kagi: A Premium Search Engine

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post #41

Been using them for about a week, very happy with it. Regional results (especially since the last update) feel as automatic as google. While I still hope they’ll add my suggestion of a bang for region switches, most queries I do don’t need one, and it properly switches between English and German. All of the DDG bangs. Seriosuly, search without bangs is nothing I’d ever want to go back to. Built-In Domain Blacklist. G…

What's a "bang"?

!imdb for a direct IMDB search, !rt for Rotten Tomatoes, !g for google.

DDG calls [0] them bangs, and as I have been using them in recent years, I use that term everywhere now.

[0]: https://duckduckgo.com/bang

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