If I do go into the office, I'll just use my cell-phone for personal browsing.
Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
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Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems super risky. How did you know the file was authentic? What if the archive contains backdoored code?
Yeah it was risky. It is quite common for excessive security practices to actually decrease security and that particular example was not nearly the most egregious one in that company.
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#43I've been working in the IT industry way too long. Any devices provided by my employer will only have whatever the employer has preloaded in terms of software. I will not browse any private or personal things on that device. I'm under constant assumption that device is keylogged/monitored. Even when working from home, I have it connect to it's own private network on it's own VLAN. If I do go into the office, I'll jus…
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#44My company blocks so much inane crap it’s ridiculous. Any site not explicitly reviewed by the firewall company? Blocked. Want to Google restaurants for lunch? Half the restaurants websites are blocked under the firewall rule against “alcohol and bars”. So much more. Trying to talk to IT about it is painful. I had to go through three levels of support over a week just to get a single site unblocked. Before Work-from-H…
From another perspective (perhaps not popular here): How does allowing access to restaurant websites help the bottom line? What is the risk? One malware outbreak can be enormously damaging. How much time should IT employees spend unblocking restaurant websites instead of, for example, developing new applications that increase productivity? Arguably, an IT employee who is spending time unblocking restaurant websites m…
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#45There are industries where compliance requires all work-related communications be logged and monitored. This logging is typically done through proxy servers on the network, and avoiding them is a _bad_thing_. They will also track web traffic through a proxy and MITM any https traffic by forcing the use of specific keys. They're trying to look for insider trading. Avoiding the proxy is the problem. Staff using their o…
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#46There are industries where compliance requires all work-related communications be logged and monitored. This logging is typically done through proxy servers on the network, and avoiding them is a _bad_thing_. They will also track web traffic through a proxy and MITM any https traffic by forcing the use of specific keys. They're trying to look for insider trading. Avoiding the proxy is the problem. Staff using their o…
It's absolutely reasonable to have security requirements. It's not reasonable to fire someone for a single, accidental violation. I hope the people in the above story realize that they've made a mistake.
Their IT department will certainly ban Brave to prevent future uses of Tor, now that they’re aware!
But there are many industries where a zero tolerance policy for Tor session origination from a desktop is absolutely legitimately appropriate, as it could otherwise be (even just one-time) exploited for massive potential harm to wealth and people.
There’s a popular view with some freedom folks that we shouldn’t have the right to search people who are visiting family in jail, and while they’re right from a purely theoretical “my rights” standpoint, from a pragmatic stance it is generally understood that it’s fair to try not to let weapons be given from visitors to criminals, even if abrogation of rights occurs — and if you forget and bring a knife someday, you may get banned from the jail, even though it’s just a mistake, because of how serious the safety and lives are at stake.
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#47My company blocks so much inane crap it’s ridiculous. Any site not explicitly reviewed by the firewall company? Blocked. Want to Google restaurants for lunch? Half the restaurants websites are blocked under the firewall rule against “alcohol and bars”. So much more. Trying to talk to IT about it is painful. I had to go through three levels of support over a week just to get a single site unblocked. Before Work-from-H…
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's absolutely reasonable to have security requirements. It's not reasonable to fire someone for a single, accidental violation. I hope the people in the above story realize that they've made a mistake.
It is if you have a zero-tolerance policy and they break it. Their IT department will certainly ban Brave to prevent future uses of Tor, now that they’re aware! But there are many industries where a zero tolerance policy for Tor session origination from a desktop is absolutely legitimately appropriate, as it could otherwise be (even just one-time) exploited for massive potential harm to wealth and people. There’s a p…
A regime where any accidental fat-finger or triggering of an unknown keyboard shortcut results in dismissal will quickly produce an environment where nobody is able to work or do anything useful - as seems to be happening here.
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems super risky. How did you know the file was authentic? What if the archive contains backdoored code?
Seems like an odd proposition for an attack vector. Maybe, just maybe if I make this look like a misconfigured server, maybe, just maybe, someone will grab the boost files from the server and compile them? I can’t imagine.
Re: Using Brave's “Private Window with Tor” could get you fired
#50My company blocks so much inane crap it’s ridiculous. Any site not explicitly reviewed by the firewall company? Blocked. Want to Google restaurants for lunch? Half the restaurants websites are blocked under the firewall rule against “alcohol and bars”. So much more. Trying to talk to IT about it is painful. I had to go through three levels of support over a week just to get a single site unblocked. Before Work-from-H…
From another perspective (perhaps not popular here): How does allowing access to restaurant websites help the bottom line? What is the risk? One malware outbreak can be enormously damaging. How much time should IT employees spend unblocking restaurant websites instead of, for example, developing new applications that increase productivity? Arguably, an IT employee who is spending time unblocking restaurant websites m…