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Unloved by generations of soldiers, the MRE finds a fan base

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Re: Unloved by generations of soldiers, the MRE finds a fan base

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At some point in the very beginning of 199x the humanitarian aid of NATO MRE got distributed in our dormitories - it were kind of hungry years in USSR, empty store shelves, rationing of staples, and as a student i had at that time barely enough money only for cheap illegal vodka (highest bang for the buck) and hardly could even indulge in beer, let alone buy any food - and those MREs went down very nicely, 30 years l…

The Night Watch series books talk about “fake vodka” which I found highly amusing. I assume it’s watered back industrial ethanol?

> it’s watered back industrial ethanol

usually that is what you hope for. Sometimes the seller would claim that it is off-book ethanol supply from the liquor or medical industry - no way to verify of course. On the very bottom of the range is pretty "dirty" ethanol and even occasionally methanol (couple months ago there were 2 clusters of 80+ such poisonings in the regional cities in Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_inc...), though you usually don't venture that low. In a smaller cities and of course villages you'll also meet moonshine. Once back then we bought in a normal store in a small town several 1L jars of what happened to be moonshine which had their wide mouths capped with single use cap - i.e. you open the jar and consume it :) Which is what we (me and 2 crewmates) did with the head of local police and the driver of our loaded (~10 tons of construction supplies) truck while waiting for the ferry to take the truck and us across the river - to say honestly, as the jar at the ferry crossing wasn't the only one, we lost the truck that day and found it couple days later missing about 10% of the cargo :)

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I've had Chinese MREs, once. It was the worst food I've ever tasted. Someone in the family had a can from former prc military service. I don't know what it is, but maybe the Chinese army deploys so infrequently (almost never?) that they place zero priority on their MREs. I begrudgingly eat US MREs once every 3-5 years for about a week or so as I replenish my one case of MREs for earthquake supplies. They're actually…

>> I don't know what it is, but maybe the Chinese army deploys so infrequently (almost never?) that they place zero priority on their MREs. I don't know about the Chinese, but my poor army doesn't have an official MRE. On the rare occasion that they are deployed to where they can't setup kitchens, like disaster zones: storm, flooding, etc.., the soldiers typically make do with instant noodle or ration bar until a fie…

I was looking at steve's YouTube channel and there was a Honduran "MRE" which was similar to what you described: random off the shelf food with a long shelf life.

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I remember Steve video about China's MRE where he had stomach problem after eating. Eat some biscuit from WW1-era: totally fine, eat some chow mein from PRC's MRE: instant diarrhea

I've had Chinese MREs, once. It was the worst food I've ever tasted. Someone in the family had a can from former prc military service. I don't know what it is, but maybe the Chinese army deploys so infrequently (almost never?) that they place zero priority on their MREs. I begrudgingly eat US MREs once every 3-5 years for about a week or so as I replenish my one case of MREs for earthquake supplies. They're actually…

>I begrudgingly eat US MREs once every 3-5 years for about a week or so as I replenish my one case of MREs for earthquake supplies.

What's the TCO on using MREs for disaster prep? I did some light research a while ago and figured it was pretty pricey compared to buying traditional nonperishables (eg. instant noodles, canned vegetables, dried beans). Plus, those foods are easier to work into a conventional meal than MREs. Is there some advantage of MREs I'm missing?

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I've had Chinese MREs, once. It was the worst food I've ever tasted. Someone in the family had a can from former prc military service. I don't know what it is, but maybe the Chinese army deploys so infrequently (almost never?) that they place zero priority on their MREs. I begrudgingly eat US MREs once every 3-5 years for about a week or so as I replenish my one case of MREs for earthquake supplies. They're actually…

>I begrudgingly eat US MREs once every 3-5 years for about a week or so as I replenish my one case of MREs for earthquake supplies. What's the TCO on using MREs for disaster prep? I did some light research a while ago and figured it was pretty pricey compared to buying traditional nonperishables (eg. instant noodles, canned vegetables, dried beans). Plus, those foods are easier to work into a conventional meal than M…

MREs self-heat. Hot food is good for morale and in a disaster situation, instant noodles might be "noodle crackers".

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The Night Watch series books talk about “fake vodka” which I found highly amusing. I assume it’s watered back industrial ethanol?

> it’s watered back industrial ethanol usually that is what you hope for. Sometimes the seller would claim that it is off-book ethanol supply from the liquor or medical industry - no way to verify of course. On the very bottom of the range is pretty "dirty" ethanol and even occasionally methanol (couple months ago there were 2 clusters of 80+ such poisonings in the regional cities in Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/w…

Where I went to college, moonshine is a big thing and is relatively easy to get once you know some locals. I've tried it multiple times and it was always absolutely vile. It would usually come in a reused plastic milk jug. There was nothing you could mix it with and not taste the horrible flavor. I had a friend who made his own stovetop still and despite it probably being slightly poisoned with methanol, it actually kind of tasted like a corn whiskey. I don't know how he was able to make something palatable but every backwoods moonshine maker in the area couldn't manage to make something that didn't taste like gasoline. Whenever I was going to a party where I knew there would be plenty of moonshine, I'd just bring my own legal liquor.

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I haven't tasted the delights of the veggie omelet yet. But the dried pork patty we had in the mid 1980's was horrific. This was before the flameless ration heaters, so your choice was to hydrate it with cold water, or break pieces off and place it in your mouth & allow your saliva to reconstitute it. It smelled like cat food, IIRC.

Cat food is a good sedative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSyqWbrxcG4

You gotta huff glue too

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Steve1989MREInfo https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2I6Et1JkidnnbWgJFiMeHA Nice!

I love this guy's channel. He's the only guy I've seen who has the guts to eat MRE's dated since WWII and perhaps older. The most recent I've seen was him comparing MRE's from the PRC (yes, China), Taiwan, USA, Russia, etc.

> MRE's dated since WWII

I may have looked into this during pandemic boredom. Ahem. Consensus seems to be that the biggest risk (as long as the can is normal) is metallic leaching from acidic foods.

Old canned fruit or tomato sauces? Maybe skip.

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