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Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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> You won’t be able to update things like Wi-Fi network settings, add additional Wifi devices, or run speed tests. Wow, I'm not familiar if users are forced to use the Google Home app, but that seems a bit drastic to stop users from even changing the most basic settings?

"You won’t be able to update things like Wi-Fi network settings, add additional Wifi devices, or run speed tests." Aren't they reaching into Your device to remove functionality? Isn't this vandalism, and a crime?

It’s not a crime, since the advertising includes OTA as a feature and it’s not criminal to remove functionality from a previously-sold device.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answer is carbon offsets Whether carbon offsets actually work is another issue though

Most of them don't. Loopholes allow dxisting forests to be used to create huge amount of carbon credits without doing anything. Everyone knows but hardly anyone cares. https://www.npr.org/2021/05/07/994774148/emission-impossible

Even if forests are planted, climate change will burn them to the ground regardless. It already is: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/wildfires-rage-carb...

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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At the risk of sounding cynical, I will say that anyone buying a router from Google should have known exactly what to expect.

That was the reason I sold (for a symbolic price) my Chromecast Audio years ago, the integration was getting increasingly unreliable in Android, and I was afraid that the next step would have been to shut down its servers entirely

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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In case anyone wants it, here's how to root a TP-Link OnHub. They're essentially glorified chromebooks, with some magic sauce on them. https://www.exploitee.rs/index.php/Rooting_The_Google_OnHub Dis: Googler, not near Nest/Home

A quick search suggest there's no WRT firmware for the device. That's a pity, OnHub has 1G ram and I can imaging a lot of creative usages if WRT firmware is available.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.

How come smaller companies like Zyxel and Asus have solved this problem decades ago? Maybe because they support their hardware for years after they stopped producing, so the stock clears?

They don't have advertising-monopoly waterfalls of money, which affords them an attention span for things other than the care and feeding of the advertising monopoly.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #46
post #25

In case anyone wants it, here's how to root a TP-Link OnHub. They're essentially glorified chromebooks, with some magic sauce on them. https://www.exploitee.rs/index.php/Rooting_The_Google_OnHub Dis: Googler, not near Nest/Home

A quick search suggest there's no WRT firmware for the device. That's a pity, OnHub has 1G ram and I can imaging a lot of creative usages if WRT firmware is available.

It's likely expecting to boot from a custom vendor kernel, even after being placed in "developer mode" - which is probably why the "rooting" procedure is so involved. Look, I get that this has a nice amount of RAM and all, but a lot of this random IoT junk is just not worth supporting.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #19
post #10

Oh Google... People do not care when it was introduced - people care for support from the time when the last one got sold!

The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.

They can buy the units back from retailers. It's common practice.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'.

'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

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