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Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by throwanem » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 12:54 AM UTC

Supermancho wrote: post #40

So nobody in this discussion (nor the site) explains what "notch" means, in context. --- It's a black box on the top part of the screen that houses the front-facing camera and other sensors. The notch easily distinguishes the iPhone X from its older cousins and is considered part of the overall good design. https://miro.medium.com/max/1000/1*2vE1g5s1yx-W3XNy9qjPGQ.jp... --- I assume this "app" adds hanging lights to…

At the top of your MacBook Pro, yes. They added a notch to those too, in the most recent iteration. It has not gone entirely without entirely predictable controversy.

Re: Notches Gone Wild

#42

Post by throwanem » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 12:56 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

I'm astounded Apple approved this. Guidelines for both iOS and macOS include "don't draw attention to the notch".

I'm not surprised they made an exception. Something cute and cheerful like this might go a little way toward improving people's notch-related dispositions, and in any case it is cute and cheerful so why not?

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by throwanem » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 1:05 AM UTC

coding123 wrote: post #7

So notch owners... what happens when you watch a video full screen.. do you just miss out on the pixels in the notch area?

Not for a Mac yet, but I just got a phone with a notch for the first time a few months ago, and I actually find myself frequently using VLC's option to expand the video into the notch area. That near the edge of most frames, there's rarely anything of import to risk concealing, and there's something enjoyably Star Trek about watching a video on a round-cornered handheld display.

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by lelandfe » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #42

LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

I'm astounded Apple approved this. Guidelines for both iOS and macOS include "don't draw attention to the notch".

I'm not surprised they made an exception. Something cute and cheerful like this might go a little way toward improving people's notch-related dispositions, and in any case it is cute and cheerful so why not?

Plus IconFactory would absolutely have contacts over on that side.

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by djxfade » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 1:22 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

I'm astounded Apple approved this. Guidelines for both iOS and macOS include "don't draw attention to the notch".

Considering how little good software (or any software at all) is available on the Mac App Store, I would think Apple would be happy to accept mostly anything

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by throwaway472927 » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 2:26 AM UTC

Sharlin wrote: post #31

coding123 wrote: post #7

So notch owners... what happens when you watch a video full screen.. do you just miss out on the pixels in the notch area?

How many 16:10.4 aspect ratio videos do you think there are in the world?

There is presumably some handling of 4:3 or "vertical videos" though, would be interesting to know what it is

Re: Notches Gone Wild

#47

Post by cosmotic » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 3:35 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #20

It's funny how much of big deal the notch was when the new Macs came out, but after using my MBP for a month+, I never (and I mean never ) even notice it or get bothered by it.

What do you do about the menu items being truncated? I don't even have a lot and it truncates them.

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by bmitc » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 7:54 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #20

It's funny how much of big deal the notch was when the new Macs came out, but after using my MBP for a month+, I never (and I mean never ) even notice it or get bothered by it.

Did you also not notice how it actually does nothing to increase screen real estate?

I have a visual allergy to notches on phones. I just can't fathom how someone can get used to it on a laptop.

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by bmitc » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 7:54 AM UTC

dilap wrote: post #34

dvt wrote: post #20

It's funny how much of big deal the notch was when the new Macs came out, but after using my MBP for a month+, I never (and I mean never ) even notice it or get bothered by it.

I like it, both on computer and phone. It makes the device feel more organic. Also, on the computer, I enjoy having somewhere I can hide the mouse pointer, if I don't want to see it.

> It makes the device feel more organic.

Could you elaborate?

Re: Notches Gone Wild

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Post by bmitc » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 7:59 AM UTC

comeonseriously wrote: post #14

coding123 wrote: post #7

So notch owners... what happens when you watch a video full screen.. do you just miss out on the pixels in the notch area?

I dislike the notch as much as the next guy, but they started with a 16:10 display and actually ADDED pixels on top around the camera. In this case, you're not losing ANY pixels due to the notch. Videos should play just fine given that most are 16:9 or wider.

You're not really gaining them either. In full screen, apps are basically the same as they were previously since the top notch bar becomes blacked out. In regular mode, they've increased the vertical height of the menu bar to match the notch, so there's what, a handful of pixels gained there?