They missed the obvious option, to firbid high schools (this will remove students)
To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
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Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
#42I think making suicide less accessible will result in fewer suicides on campus.
And I think making it more accessible will increase its rate.
Seems obvious.
But the headline isn't about that. It's about tut-tutting this backward institution. Because we, and the students union knows everything the school is doing to curb suicides beyond removing fans.
Can they do more? Maybe. How would I know. I've never heard of this school before.
Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
#43So the Indian Institute of Sciences hasn't got the memorandum on psychological counselling yet?
I’ve been told by several Indian colleagues that mental health services in India are taboo, and generally reserved for the high dysfunctional who cannot be an active part in society (think very schizophrenic, for example). Is that accurate or old information?
(Former expat who spent a few years living near Delhi) you’d never see a person going crazy on the streets in India like they do in California. Their government provides some services to help people in those situations. Many families provide support to members with a mental illness.
However there’s little safety nets if you lose your job and your family relies on you, there aren’t as many chances to “catch up” or “get back on your feet” like you could in developed countries which does lead to suicide when people struggle with school or jobs. This unfortunately impacted many in the early Covid days. That looming fear of “one mistake and this all is over” is just a lot of weight to hold on your shoulders.
Indian readers, this is just my interpretation of things from spending several years living there. Please point out any inaccuracies in my thoughts as I’m still interested in understanding these issues better.
Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
However making suicide harder, does reduce the suicide rate. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/saves...
However removing the fan ostensibly makes the room warmer, which increases the suicide rate. https://news.stanford.edu/2018/07/23/warming-temperatures-li...
They are replacing ceiling fans with wall mounted fans, otherwise non suicide death by heat exhaustion would increase. India is a poorer developing country, so actual AC in the dorms is still out of the question.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That wasn’t the point that people were making. The point they were making is that removing fans doesn’t address the underlying mental health issues. That is a fair argument, but not how I interpreted GP. In the context it seemed like they were arguing against any measure that removes means of suicide away from people because “they’ll just do it regardless”. > If anything, arguing that everyone is ok now because few…
> that removes means of suicide No, it's ab out removing important equipment. Fans in hot weather really help if you don't have AC, As far as I know it gets quite hot in (all of) India. Now their fans are gone as a "hack" for some other problem. At the very least, life of those students will be more uncomfortable. Ceiling fans also have a number of advantages over others, like being mostly noiseless and creating vert…
They replaced the ceiling fans with wall fans. The wall fans however might be less effective, I’m not sure.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
However removing the fan ostensibly makes the room warmer, which increases the suicide rate. https://news.stanford.edu/2018/07/23/warming-temperatures-li...
They are replacing ceiling fans with wall mounted fans, otherwise non suicide death by heat exhaustion would increase. India is a poorer developing country, so actual AC in the dorms is still out of the question.
This is literally the #1 institute in India.
If they want, they can get ACs.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve been told by several Indian colleagues that mental health services in India are taboo, and generally reserved for the high dysfunctional who cannot be an active part in society (think very schizophrenic, for example). Is that accurate or old information?
(Former expat who spent a few years living near Delhi) you’d never see a person going crazy on the streets in India like they do in California. Their government provides some services to help people in those situations. Many families provide support to members with a mental illness. However there’s little safety nets if you lose your job and your family relies on you, there aren’t as many chances to “catch up” or “ge…
> you’d never see a person going crazy on the streets in India like they do in California.
I’ve visited Delhi before, and at the time was accosted by a seemingly insane beggar. I have yet to visit a developing country that didn’t have a few crazy people on the streets.
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#48Blame the fans, so what is the next thing they will remove, floors above 2nd, sharp objects, electricity? Everything else but not the cause ...
Step 2: Remove the students
Re: To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are replacing ceiling fans with wall mounted fans, otherwise non suicide death by heat exhaustion would increase. India is a poorer developing country, so actual AC in the dorms is still out of the question.
This is literally the #1 institute in India. If they want, they can get ACs.
Why would you think that? The top universities in places like India and China get their positions mainly by selecting the brightest students, they don’t actually throw a lot resources their way, and these students are often paying their living expenses themselves or with a small stipend or subsidy.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are replacing ceiling fans with wall mounted fans, otherwise non suicide death by heat exhaustion would increase. India is a poorer developing country, so actual AC in the dorms is still out of the question.
This is literally the #1 institute in India. If they want, they can get ACs.
Are you implying only rich people can study there? (which could be, of course)