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Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by prepend »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #39
bityard wrote: post #36

These days, there seems to be (at least) two kinds of open source software developers: 0. Those who release their code under an open source license, in the hope that it will be useful to others in some way. 1. Those who do the same as above, with the additional hope that they will be paid for in some ill-defined way. And when they are not, take to twitter and blogs to proclaim, "somebody should really do something ab…

I do think there is a real problem whereby very important code that a lot of people and systems depend on is looked after part time (or not at all) and nobody thinks about it until it has a severe bug. But that's almost orthogonal to the issue of whether the original developer should be paid because their code turns out to be useful to lots of people.

I think it’s a problem, but don’t think funding is a good solution. If funding was good, then commercial products would serve the purpose.

I think a better approach is to encourage more smart developers contributing time. And if companies find an individual or a percent of a person’s time on a project that’s actually funding. But it’s very different from trying to replicate direct funds.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by tikkabhuna »

vbezhenar wrote: post #38
laumars wrote: post #27

I once used PuTTY as the base for an internal SSH tool. We needed to provide data entry teams with access to a green screen but didn’t want to expose any more servers than what they were authorised to use and a simple interface because a lot of the data entry guys were technologically illiterate. After spending hours looking for solutions that were purpose built for this kind of thing I gave up took PuTTYs source and…

For me putty is still preferred way to ssh with Windows. Nowadays windows is shipping openssh.exe, so I can run it from cmd and it kinda works for quick simple actions, but clipboard works weirdly, basically I have to use right-click/paste to reliably paste data, shift+insert works in some apps and does not work in others. Putty just works like it worked 10 years ago, it's good old reliable tool.

I use Windows Terminal these days so I have the same copy/paste behaviour in WSL, remote SSH and cmd. Ctrl + C when highlighting text to copy, Ctrl + V to paste.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by dgfitz »

vbezhenar wrote: post #38
laumars wrote: post #27

I once used PuTTY as the base for an internal SSH tool. We needed to provide data entry teams with access to a green screen but didn’t want to expose any more servers than what they were authorised to use and a simple interface because a lot of the data entry guys were technologically illiterate. After spending hours looking for solutions that were purpose built for this kind of thing I gave up took PuTTYs source and…

For me putty is still preferred way to ssh with Windows. Nowadays windows is shipping openssh.exe, so I can run it from cmd and it kinda works for quick simple actions, but clipboard works weirdly, basically I have to use right-click/paste to reliably paste data, shift+insert works in some apps and does not work in others. Putty just works like it worked 10 years ago, it's good old reliable tool.

Have you ever tried mobaxterm? I was a putty person as well until I was put on to moba.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by doubled112 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #38
laumars wrote: post #27

I once used PuTTY as the base for an internal SSH tool. We needed to provide data entry teams with access to a green screen but didn’t want to expose any more servers than what they were authorised to use and a simple interface because a lot of the data entry guys were technologically illiterate. After spending hours looking for solutions that were purpose built for this kind of thing I gave up took PuTTYs source and…

For me putty is still preferred way to ssh with Windows. Nowadays windows is shipping openssh.exe, so I can run it from cmd and it kinda works for quick simple actions, but clipboard works weirdly, basically I have to use right-click/paste to reliably paste data, shift+insert works in some apps and does not work in others. Putty just works like it worked 10 years ago, it's good old reliable tool.

Anybody have a solution to get hostname completion in Powershell?

ssh [letter][tab] gets me a list with my Zsh config. I looked briefly one time and couldn't find what I was looking for.

I have a fairly large SSH config file, and needing to open it to copy and paste hostnames from the file is the main reason I just use WSL.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by betwixthewires »

nijave wrote: post #23

I also find the opposite true--reminding colleagues that using OSS means we have to own and maintain the software whether the original community/author does or not. There seems to be a hesitance to fork abandoned or slow moving software to update/fix issues

I think this is an important point that is often overlooked.

When we release code under a free software license, we are giving the software to the user, entirely. If you're using software that you own, not just merely have a license to, it is yours, be prepared to maintain it, and if you're not prepared to maintain it, maybe relying on free-as-in-freedom software is a bad decision for you.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by gopher_space »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #4

How nice it is to see somebody who actually read the license they released their code under and accepts the results:)

You don't ignore complaints from systems you use for work. This isn't at all a political issue for engineers.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by guenthert »

gfnaq wrote: post #15
johnklos wrote: post #2

What an excellent reminder of how easy and effective it can be to not be a jerk. I think there are plenty of people who could take some advice from this.

Are you referring to this? "But I've always been able to deal with this by pointedly reminding the most demanding people that I'm not at their beck and call. Most of those companies who mistake me for a contracted vendor are prepared to recognise their mistake once I point it out, and the more self-aware ones even apologise. I've not even found it necessary to be especially rude: a plain statement of the facts of lif…

> It is easier if you are a native English speaker, because you have a wide range of expressions at your disposal to express disdain or irritation without going nuclear.

This! I - non-native myself - worked with fellows who learned English late in life and sadly to some share from the wrong sources (action movies and rap music, I'm afraid). Naturally, at times they appeared quite immature. Otoh, I had the good fortune to work with some British fellows, which, at times, was quite educational.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by Datagenerator »

dgfitz wrote: post #43
vbezhenar wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me putty is still preferred way to ssh with Windows. Nowadays windows is shipping openssh.exe, so I can run it from cmd and it kinda works for quick simple actions, but clipboard works weirdly, basically I have to use right-click/paste to reliably paste data, shift+insert works in some apps and does not work in others. Putty just works like it worked 10 years ago, it's good old reliable tool.

Have you ever tried mobaxterm? I was a putty person as well until I was put on to moba.

This software limits the user with a maximum of allowed sessions.

Re: Putty maintainer on his attitude towards security and open source

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Post by smegsicle »

aasasd wrote: post #14

It took me until the footnote to remember that this is Simom Tatham, who indeed also authored a fine no-nonsense collection of little puzzle games, which has been ported to a bunch of platforms. Here they are playable online on Tatham's site: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ And here's the Android version: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/name.boyle.chris.sgtpuzzles/

His puzzle game collection is as perfect in its domain as PuTTY is as an ssh client.

'unruly' and 'signposts' are neat little timewasters, but devolve into a lot of counting at larger sizes..

'flip' with random shapes is a great fidget-style toy

'galaxies' at 'unreasonable difficulty' gets pretty crazy

and plenty more, eg 'solo' provides every version of sudoku that you might want

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