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Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by hardwaregeek »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #14
v64 wrote: post #2

This match was notable for a number of reasons: 1) Game 6 lasted 136 moves, making it the longest game in world championship history, surpassing the 124 move game 5 of Korchnoi-Karpov in 1978. 2) Carlsen's victory in game 6 was also the first decisive match game (excluding tiebreakers) since game 10 of Carlsen's defense against Karjakin in 2016. Carlsen's defense against Caruana in 2018 featured 12 draws before movin…

It could be the worst challenger performance in the history of the game. Nepo’s performance in the very long game 6 was actually quite good, even though he lost it. Neither of them played accurately in the in the time scramble to move 40, but Nepo didn’t lose to a massive blunder or anything. However after that he was clearly tilted off the face of the earth. He was playing much too quickly and made blunders than eve…

It's interesting because this weakness of Nepo was known going into the championship. And I have to presume that he worked on it. But there was just not enough time to have him build up the necessary mental conditioning. I suspect if he had a year or two to prep, Ian would have done a lot better.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by hardwaregeek »

switz wrote: post #20
pkulak wrote: post #16

Is it just me, or is Chess becoming a thing lately? I've recently started to really enjoy watching it (kinda hate playing it, haha), so maybe it's just because I'm paying attention?

Chess is in many ways, the perfect esport. I'm sure I'll take some flack for calling it an esport due to its rich history and the fact that it was not originally a "video game", but in 2021 those lines are blurred. In my opinion, it checks all the boxes.

It really is! The rules are fairly easy and a significant amount of people already know them; the game is free to play with no freemium model; the skill ceiling is really really really high. Sure you may not understand why Magnus makes his moves, but there's something very fascinating about watching a master at work.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by avalys »

scbrg wrote: post #34
CalChris wrote: post #4

Game 6 was pretty tight and pretty good. You have to realize they were playing the last moves after midnight and they were playing them on increment, 30 seconds a move, basically rapid. Nepo's 'blunder' is an extremely natural looking move, 130. .. Qe6 and it only loses in 49 moves. But as was predicted before the match, if Nepo lost one it'd be an avalanche. Nepo only squeezed in because the Candidates tournament wa…

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

This isn’t really obscure or domain-specific, though.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by herodoturtle »

cyberferret wrote: post #7
v64 wrote: post #2

This match was notable for a number of reasons: 1) Game 6 lasted 136 moves, making it the longest game in world championship history, surpassing the 124 move game 5 of Korchnoi-Karpov in 1978. 2) Carlsen's victory in game 6 was also the first decisive match game (excluding tiebreakers) since game 10 of Carlsen's defense against Karjakin in 2016. Carlsen's defense against Caruana in 2018 featured 12 draws before movin…

Re: Your point (1), I read somewhere that the match took longer than watching the entire "Queen's Gambit" NetFlix series start to finish. (To put it in perspective for readers who may not realise how much time is spent at the board during these sorts of games).

> may not realise how much time is spent at the board

Or not spent at the board - Nepo seemed to prefer the side room ;-)

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by shawnz »

pkulak wrote: post #16

Is it just me, or is Chess becoming a thing lately? I've recently started to really enjoy watching it (kinda hate playing it, haha), so maybe it's just because I'm paying attention?

Many twitch streamers have been playing it recently due to initiatives such as the Chess.com "PogChamps" tournament (particularly xQc, who is currently the most popular streamer on twitch)

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by usehackernews »

wraptile wrote: post #39
switz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chess is in many ways, the perfect esport. I'm sure I'll take some flack for calling it an esport due to its rich history and the fact that it was not originally a "video game", but in 2021 those lines are blurred. In my opinion, it checks all the boxes.

I'd completely disagree with you here. Chess is only there because of history but it checks none of successful esport checkmarks. One might even argue that it has been a "solved" game for decades which is the opposite of what you want for a successful esports game. One of the most important esport features is updates be it meta changes or new patches. That's why our current esport games are so huge even though they a…

I disagree. Meta updates take away from the enjoyment for me.

Id much rather watch competitors competing on 100% equal terms, without any developed advantage other than one created through the competitors skill.

Rocket league is a fantastic esport, and it’s been the same mechanics for years. There are no ‘special items’ or OP’d power ups. Both sides are 100% equal. It’s why I love it, the game is pure - Competitor vs competitor.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by MVorlm »

scbrg wrote: post #34
CalChris wrote: post #4

Game 6 was pretty tight and pretty good. You have to realize they were playing the last moves after midnight and they were playing them on increment, 30 seconds a move, basically rapid. Nepo's 'blunder' is an extremely natural looking move, 130. .. Qe6 and it only loses in 49 moves. But as was predicted before the match, if Nepo lost one it'd be an avalanche. Nepo only squeezed in because the Candidates tournament wa…

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

GOAT isn't obscure or domain specific and is a very common acronym used online for almost anything competitive and doesn't need any more explanation.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by tephra »

zarzavat wrote: post #17

Even if the quality of play in this match has been not great, one thing I really enjoyed was the extremely high class of commentary. Caruana, Giri, Anand, Svidler and Nakamura have been doing commentary (simultaneously!) throughout the match. It has been a real treat, I don't believe any match before has had such a deep level of live analysis. I have had five different streams open at times just to listen to them all…

Svidler and Miro with the occasional kramnik and karjakin was great. I do miss the svidler gustie duo but we're not likely to get that while Jan is a second for Magnus.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by tephra »

smnplk wrote: post #38

I feel sorry for Ian. That c5 move totally destroyed him. Some people don't understand how elementary mistake that was. And to make it in slow chess... I hope he recovers from that and goes on to win some tournaments. But as for the next candidates match, I think Alireza or Giri have the best chance to win it.

I don't think Giri has actually qualified yet.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by mysecretaccount »

scbrg wrote: post #34
CalChris wrote: post #4

Game 6 was pretty tight and pretty good. You have to realize they were playing the last moves after midnight and they were playing them on increment, 30 seconds a move, basically rapid. Nepo's 'blunder' is an extremely natural looking move, 130. .. Qe6 and it only loses in 49 moves. But as was predicted before the match, if Nepo lost one it'd be an avalanche. Nepo only squeezed in because the Candidates tournament wa…

So, for anybody else who wasn't familiar with the term GOAT , and don't want to spend minutes fighting search engines all too eager to tell them about goat cheese, it apparently means to Greatest of All Time . Please explain obscure or very domain specific acronyms.

Google "goat acronym" and don't leave this comment next time and you'll save many minutes.
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