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Re: Bob Dole has died

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Post by Teever » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 7:03 AM UTC

_moof wrote: post #35

Teever wrote: post #26

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how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?

Dole fought in World War II.

You're right I missed that, but I think it makes my point better. I was replying to a comment that said "Those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics."

I dispute that.

I'm not American. These guys may be American legends but that doesn't mean that they deserve my respect.

There are a lot of legitimate gripes that people around the world can have about someone like McCain and Dole and they don't implicitly deserve respect because they're dead.

Re: Bob Dole has died

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Post by MarkMc » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 8:18 AM UTC

Bob Dole's passing has reminded me that one of the answers in the greatest crossword puzzle of all time was, "Bob Dole Elected". Worth a read: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clinton-1996-election-nyt-c...

Re: Bob Dole has died

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Post by sjellen » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 11:39 AM UTC

Read the first couple of chapters of “What it Takes” specifically the ones on Dole and then look at the current pool of politicians. You needn’t wonder why things are in a state of decline. The greatest hardship a modern politician has been through is losing a Twitter battle.

Re: Bob Dole has died

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Post by runevault » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 2:32 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #14

runevault wrote: post #9

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I wouldn't be surprised if the latter. I don't know that the Rs had anyone who could compete with Clinton on charisma which is always dangerous. Hell when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late.

> when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late I still remember watching that moment in the town hall when it hit me that he was going to win, and probably by a good margin. He was smooooth. Coincidentally, I also remember watching Hillary Clinton do the dance thing during a debate with Trump and that's the moment I decided she might actually lose despite everyone suggesting i…

As someone who grew up in Arkansas, even as a kid we all knew the rest of the country had no idea what was coming. A Democrat who managed to win the governorship in Arkansas is, uh, impressive.

Re: Bob Dole has died

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Post by shmoe » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

Teever wrote: post #41

_moof wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dole fought in World War II.

You're right I missed that, but I think it makes my point better. I was replying to a comment that said "Those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics." I dispute that. I'm not American. These guys may be American legends but that doesn't mean that they deserve my respect. There are a lot of legitimate gripes that people around the world can have about someone like McCain and Dole a…

If you read the article below, it would seem there was fairly good sentiment from Vietnam as well when McCain passed.