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Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by freediver »

therealmarv wrote: post #36
freediver wrote: post #28

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

There is not even one Chromium (or Firefox) based browser on iOS because it's not allowed to publish other browser engines on iOS!

To be more accurate there are no Blink or Gecko based browsers on iOS. Both Firefox and Chrome (and many other Chromium browsers) exist on iOS, using WebKit rendering engine.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by speedgoose »

ajhurliman wrote: post #40
therealmarv wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is not even one Chromium (or Firefox) based browser on iOS because it's not allowed to publish other browser engines on iOS!

I'm using Brave on my iPhone right now.

It's safari with a skin and some cryptoscams.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#43

Post by PixyMisa »

ajhurliman wrote: post #40
therealmarv wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is not even one Chromium (or Firefox) based browser on iOS because it's not allowed to publish other browser engines on iOS!

I'm using Brave on my iPhone right now.

Well, yes, except no. Brave on iOS is Webkit with a fancy wrapper.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by zamadatix »

jadbox wrote: post #25
zamadatix wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Speed improvements" in every release but there must be something about the way the browser is implemented that just kills performance/efficiency vs other Chromium browsers. Even a basic test like Speedometer 2.0 shoots out that DOM manipulations are 75% the speed of the same benchmark on Chrome, what on earth is it doing to cause that? The interface is great but between performance and bugs I've never been able to s…

Is this still true of v5?

That's where I pulled the 75% result from just now, not sure if it's as systemic as it was originally as that's where I gave up bothering to test further this time.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by riidom »

SwiftyBug wrote: post #8

I don't understand that obsession browser developers have with themes. To the point it's a highlight in a major version.

I wondered about that too. It seems like a bit of "filler content" to be honest. There are not many new features at all, the new thing here is the theme management in first place. The release notes in general are pretty weak compared to pervious releases of Vivaldi.

I mean I don't care there is always a bit of a hanger now and then, I still love Vivaldi. Just saying I can relate to these observation.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by rjzzleep »

freediver wrote: post #28

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by Nux »

zamadatix wrote: post #38
Nux wrote: post #11

Fun fact, Microsoft (Skype) will not accept user@vivaldi.net as a personal email address for new accounts. It needs to be gmail/yahoo/outlook etc. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETZDicXEAEjlSQ?format=jpg&name=...

I wouldn't be surprised if that because Vivaldi had/has a corporate MS service using the domain in some way. E.g. if I test with one of my personal domains with MX records/email configured it continues just fine, if I test with one of my personal domains without email configure it continues just fine, if I try to create a personal account using my work's domain (tied to O365) it blocks it. So it's not that you can on…

Ok, good.. Then vivaldi.net is specifically blacklisted then.

I checked and vivaldi.net is their community, everyone can sign up for email, whereas vivaldi.com is their "commercial" email domain.

Both hosted in Iceland with valid MX that has got nothing to do with o365...

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by smoldesu »

SwiftyBug wrote: post #8

I don't understand that obsession browser developers have with themes. To the point it's a highlight in a major version.

I think Chrome handles themes best, at least on Linux. It automatically grabs your GTK stylesheet's color palette and recolors the window accordingly. Combined with proper window decorations, it's a surprisingly "native" feel out of the box.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by riidom »

KarlKemp wrote: post #10
SwiftyBug wrote: post #8

I don't understand that obsession browser developers have with themes. To the point it's a highlight in a major version.

Agreed… there’s very little surface that isn’t taken up by the website, so it makes far less sense than, say a terminal. It’s a uniquely bad fit for theming. A useable method of styling webpages, however, would be quite interesting. CSS just doesn’t quite work when used generically on all sites, except for maybe font sizes. Chrome’s in-beta automatic dark modes are maybe one working example. I’d appreciate, for examp…

That#s what I like most about this browser I think. I have the UI scaled down to 80% (would recommend to anybody to give this a try as well!).

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

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Post by laumars »

Scarbutt wrote: post #39
throwaway123x2 wrote: post #31

With FireFox becoming more and more unusable, does anybody with experience know if Vivaldi or Brave are objectively better (or faster or more stable)?

Mozilla should switch to chromium.

No. Competition is healthy and that includes browser rendering engines too.
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