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Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by 123pie123 »

andrew_eit wrote: post #35

Facebook aside you really see this across the board on almost any platform, that once the product reaches it's 1.0 stage, (where it is good, does what the users want it to do, and has realised its vision) it begins a process of gradual decay, as the focus of the product managers (now panicking to find some statistics to improve to show their bosses) shifts from "building functionality" to "increasing engagement/reten…

This process is similar to the old software bloat/ bloatware for applications

it's probably the same product managers moving to new companies

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by jacobmischka »

anarchy8 wrote: post #11

Social media companies are trying too hard. People just want a chronological feed of things they followed. Nothing more. Stop trying to add shit people don't want.

Hacker News is not representative of the population at large. If people in fact do not like this, engagement will drop, and they'll stop doing it. It turns out most people in the silent majority actually do like this, or are at least more engaged/addicted because of it.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by yosito »

beansu wrote: post #30

If all you care about is messaging and viewing stories of people that you have messaged lately, I would suggest you to look into Threads. It's basically messenger but for instagram and there are no ads when viewing stories.

This is the first time I ever heard of Threads. Just downloaded it, and the first thing I see is a message that says "Threads will no longer be available, starting December 2021", as in, today.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by littlestymaar »

So Meta wants to kill their last relevant product? They really do want to become the next Yahoo! right? Facebook has yielded much more profit than Amazon but their user base has remained stagnant and aging for years, and their recent PR stuns (Libra a few years ago, now the “Metaverse”) don't really sound like their perspective will improve.

I can understand why a publicly traded company engages in short term profit maximization to satisfy the shareholders and eventually declines, but since Zuck still owns 50+% of the company, I really don't understand why.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by kbenson »

andrew_eit wrote: post #35

Facebook aside you really see this across the board on almost any platform, that once the product reaches it's 1.0 stage, (where it is good, does what the users want it to do, and has realised its vision) it begins a process of gradual decay, as the focus of the product managers (now panicking to find some statistics to improve to show their bosses) shifts from "building functionality" to "increasing engagement/reten…

> We, as in the IT industry, need to come up with a culture or methodology of 'declaring a product complete' whereby all product managers are gracefully allowed to move on and a product is put into a state of stasis

We live in a time when large companies will divest themselves of profitable but not growing businesses because it gets in the way of the core mission, which for large public companies is only one thing. Growth.

In that light, I think the chance of a product being allowed to sit and fulfill it's purpose gracefully, at least for services that are major moneymakers, is essentially nil.

Private companies can sometimes get away with it, as long as the people backing them don't start to see them as investment vehicles like any other public company. At least, that is, until some large public company sees a way they can "improve" on that model and either buys them up or uses their size to bully them out of market (it's not really free market competition to use billions of VC money to undercut competitors until they fold and you have all of the market).

It's all horribly broken.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by dorkwood »

rtpg wrote: post #15
rib3ye wrote: post #12

If you follow any Young People™ you'll notice that they're all using Stories now, which still have ads, but are at least chronological. Posts (the original product) are for "Old People" (28+).

Hell, im a pretty early adopter of instagram along with loads of friends and like 95% of content has become stories. Turns out Snapchat was what most of us wanted but without a purposefully obtuse interface

I liked Snapchat, but I don't like stories. To me, the beauty of Snapchat was that I could share a funny moment with a couple of friends who I thought would find the same thing amusing. I can't do that with stories. It's like being forced to tell a in-joke to all of my friends at the same time. I'd rather just not tell the joke at all.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by datavirtue »

grepfru_it wrote: post #40
marcodiego wrote: post #32

I don't understand Instagram language. My GF uses it. It is full of digital influencers, people who make money because they are digital influencers. Young people with sometimes funny but generally pointless and most often ridiculous dancing moves to an equally ridiculous repetitive song. People buying expensive things, doing idiot things talking about uninteresting details of the uninteresting lives of equally uninte…

It's television for the current generation. I've noticed my parents and inlaws cannot exist without having the television on. I mean they can, but pick a random day, show up at their house and the TV is on some show that they are remotely interested in but watching because they had nothing else to do. That's instagram/facebook/snapchat/etc.

I have always had stuff to do. This sounds like mental torture.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Post by dragonwriter »

AlexandrB wrote: post #39

This is the kind of stuff that makes it hard to claim that Facebook is a "neutral" platform. When you start inserting content into my feed based on some engagement algorithm you become responsible for what content goes viral.

> This is the kind of stuff that makes it hard to claim that Facebook is a "neutral" platform.

Who claims that?

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