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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by athenot »

cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

At this point, there are many alternative gTLDs that can be used for personal sites, and quite a few are super cheap. Maybe the squatters will catch up and eventually buy them all up but for now there's a decent availability.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by SanchoPanda »

eropple wrote: post #28
throwvirtever wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any objective reason (performance, reliability, etc) to avoid certain TLDs?

ccTLDs are perhaps marginally less reliable given who has overriding control over them (.ly is Libya, for example), but beyond that it's probably pretty low on your list of things to care about.

This is not true if you want email to come from you main domain and you choose a remotely exotic TLD. I learned this the hard way. Don't be like me, choose a boring TLD, worry about less stupid things - there are so so many already.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by junon »

vadfa wrote: post #8
echelon wrote: post #2

Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

The stupidity of thinking what "the best TLD for your startup" is. In the meantime all respectable startups and big companies use .com like normal people.

Ah yes, branding is "stupid" now. Gotcha.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ekianjo »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #20

I think raising the price of TLDs is the only way to stop domain squaters. When even the lowest price for a domain you're squating on is 2k you can sit and pay 50 a year for 50+ years and still come out on top. Kinda sucks since I have some .io domains and I could only renew them as far as 2025.

> I think raising the price of TLDs is the only way to stop domain squaters

That does not make any sense in any world. If a squatter successfully makes money on a single domain, for example, they can reinvest on dozens or hundreds of domains next and therefore squat as much as they like just the same. And early, lucky squatters always exist. This does not solve anything. You are just pricing out people with legitimate domain name use and not much money, as usual.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by atomicnumber3 »

throwvirtever wrote: post #24
mrv_dev wrote: post #22

Build an amazing app/platform/service. Host it on whatever tld is cheaper/convenient/some_other_criteria. No one will care what the extension is - especially with current and upcoming consumption models (mobile apps, vr/ar, and so on).

Is there any objective reason (performance, reliability, etc) to avoid certain TLDs?

A couple, but they're all "human" reasons and not really technical. The TLDs records will be served off the gTLD nameservers like everything else, you can change your own nameservers from there, and DNS is slow as hell anyway (by modern standards) so it's already not like it's tightly optimized usually, and performance as perceived by the end user is greatly predicated on how warm their cache is. So any performance difference between nameservers probably barely matters unless you're like Amazon or something.

Anyway, non-objective reasons I can think of:

Lots of people don't know anything but com exists.

Com is definitely still dominant, so someone sitting on yourthing.com when yourthing.biz.no is your real site will probably be getting some chunk of your traffic. Imagine if Amazon.co.uk was the real Amazon and Amazon.com was like, a news website dedicated to posting all the bad stuff Amazon does. Tbh that'd be nice for society but you can probably understand it would be undesirable for a company.

.io is one of the only ones that's managed to kinda read com-like status, and it's only for a niche (though a lucrative niche!) audience.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by syshum »

Kinrany wrote: post #40
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

This is the same problem as land value tax that was never solved.

it was not solved by those that advocate for land value tax because it is not seen as a problem, just like many do not see domain "squatting" as a problem

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by blamarvt »

throwvirtever wrote: post #24
mrv_dev wrote: post #22

Build an amazing app/platform/service. Host it on whatever tld is cheaper/convenient/some_other_criteria. No one will care what the extension is - especially with current and upcoming consumption models (mobile apps, vr/ar, and so on).

Is there any objective reason (performance, reliability, etc) to avoid certain TLDs?

While there are some performance differences [1] between TLDs, I don't personally think it should factor very heavily when choosing one.

As for reliability, there have been a few ".io" outages and I remember ".club" going down a few years ago but DNS makes complete TLD outages pretty rare.

I'd say the biggest reason to avoid certain TLDs is the human factor. Humans are used to typing ".com" or ".org" or ".net". I don't have any data to back that up though, so it probably isn't a satisfying answer!

[1] https://blog.nameshield.com/blog/2020/04/30/choosing-the-rig...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by MisterSandman »

Macha wrote: post #37
throwvirtever wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any objective reason (performance, reliability, etc) to avoid certain TLDs?

.com/.net/.org - your name is probably gone New gTLDs - The registry can pretty much arbitrarily set prices in the future ccTLDs - Politics might make you have to change domain (e.g. UK owners of .eu) Pick your poison, I tend to stick with the original TLDs and my own country's ccTLD

How is .me? It's used a lot by students for their portfolio, I bit the bullet but wondering if I screwed up.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by reaperducer »

mrv_dev wrote: post #22

Build an amazing app/platform/service. Host it on whatever tld is cheaper/convenient/some_other_criteria. No one will care what the extension is - especially with current and upcoming consumption models (mobile apps, vr/ar, and so on).

No one will care what the extension is

Only on HN. In the real world, it matters quite a lot.

I tried to get a healthcare company to pick up its .health equivalent. The marketing department included the possibility of using the domain in its annual customer survey. The result was that a very large number of patients believed it to be a spam or scam domain.

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