Am I the only one that doesn't like this trend of centralised/cloud IDEs?
JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
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Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was reporting a lot of bugs to them initially, but so many of them were ignored that I can’t force myself to do this anymore. I’m still paying for IDEA Ultimate, but it's only because I’m waiting for a better IDE with a more fair subscription system (when I cancel the subscription that was at least 1 year long, I should have the LATEST version I’ve paid for, not the first one). I will try Feet, of course, but I hav…
I have a subscription to ultimate. Its terms seem quite fair to me - you're effectively buying a specific version (the one you get to keep) and paying for it in instalments over the year. Until your new subscription starts you have not paid for those interim releases. They send conspicuous renewal email notices well ahead of making renewal charges which is more than most recurring subscriptions of all types provide.…
I agree about the Rust plugin :) It's great.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#43Am I the only one that doesn't like this trend of centralised/cloud IDEs?
Why do you think this is a centralised/cloud IDE?
It still runs on your machine. But the architecture it's built on means that it can run anywhere. A similar architecture to VS Code where you can deploy the VS Code server in a docker container or a remote server and run the UI on your PC. You can still run the entire thing on your PC if you wish.
So long as they never remove the ability to run locally (they would be insane to ever do that), then I welcome this modular architecture that embraces standards like LSP.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#44Why would anyone need real-time collaboration in IDE? Is it helpful?
It's quite useful for pair-programming, especially remotely (but some colleagues have started doing this in the office as well, since it means that each paired programmer also has their own workplace and can look stuff up without disturbing the other), also reviews. Especially helpful for one project I was working on at the time was VS Code's ability to also share local servers with the participants (terminals as well, but never needed that so far).
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#45This looks very interesting. This was almost overdue. Since the beginning of Covid, the need for good remote code development raised quite a bit (at least for many people I know, including our team). When compared to VS Code and its remote editing over SSH, IntelliJ was really lacking. I know of a couple of people who went away from PyCharm just because of this. Related reports: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/P…
> When compared to VS Code and its remote editing over SSH, IntelliJ was really lacking. I know of a couple of people who went away from PyCharm just because of this. What issues did they have? PyCharm in particular has had a "remote interpreter" feature for a while which works quite well. The text is edited locally but the interpreter and libraries are installed on the remote end. It then brings back whatever it nee…
> The text is edited locally
This was the pain point. My local machine didn't have source code locally.
Maybe I was too lazy, but syncing code on both local machine and remote machine was painful.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#46Am I the only one that doesn't like this trend of centralised/cloud IDEs?
This trend never went fully away since the timesharing systems got introduced.
Mainframes, UNIX via telnet/X Windows, UNIX/Windows via Citrix/VNC/RDP, now we have Cloud via ssh/browser.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#47Am I the only one that doesn't like this trend of centralised/cloud IDEs?
Why do you think this is a centralised/cloud IDE? It still runs on your machine. But the architecture it's built on means that it can run anywhere. A similar architecture to VS Code where you can deploy the VS Code server in a docker container or a remote server and run the UI on your PC. You can still run the entire thing on your PC if you wish. So long as they never remove the ability to run locally (they would be…
Being old enough to have used thin terminals, they aren't insane, plenty of industries don't allow for local development.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think this is a centralised/cloud IDE? It still runs on your machine. But the architecture it's built on means that it can run anywhere. A similar architecture to VS Code where you can deploy the VS Code server in a docker container or a remote server and run the UI on your PC. You can still run the entire thing on your PC if you wish. So long as they never remove the ability to run locally (they would be…
Being old enough to have used thin terminals, they aren't insane, plenty of industries don't allow for local development.
Yes, but if they ever removed the ability to run locally altogether then they would be insane. Because there's plenty of people that do development on their local machine.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#49Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…
IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.
There's been a long-standing issue in Rider and also Webstorm where you try to search globally with Ctrl-Shift-F, and the search UI comes up with the searchbar unfocused and pre-filled with something random. You type what you avtually want to search for, and it either goes nowhere, or tacks onto the end of whatever garbage was pre-populated in the search bar.
Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains
#50This looks very interesting. This was almost overdue. Since the beginning of Covid, the need for good remote code development raised quite a bit (at least for many people I know, including our team). When compared to VS Code and its remote editing over SSH, IntelliJ was really lacking. I know of a couple of people who went away from PyCharm just because of this. Related reports: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/P…
> When compared to VS Code and its remote editing over SSH, IntelliJ was really lacking. I know of a couple of people who went away from PyCharm just because of this. What issues did they have? PyCharm in particular has had a "remote interpreter" feature for a while which works quite well. The text is edited locally but the interpreter and libraries are installed on the remote end. It then brings back whatever it nee…
I have used both for this purpose. The setup in pycharm/intellij is about 100x more work so if you don’t plan on working alot on a particular project, in remote mode, it’s just too convenient to use vscode. It parses your .ssh/config so there’s no manual setup, or at least close to 0. In intellij you have to set up folder sync, remote interpreters, , +++. It works great but it’s just a huge hassle in comparison.