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Writing is networking for introverts

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Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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post #11

I don't see how it would be - most of what's written is never read.

I’m not sure that’s true for all forms of writing but I’d love to hear more about it. Publishing a blog, for example, is pretty likely to be read by at least a small group of people. Same with a book. If I’m writing in a personal notebook, than no, it’s not likely to be read. On the whole, the statement is probably true, but for specific forms, I suspect it’s false.

> Publishing a blog, for example, is pretty likely to be read by at least a small group of people.

No it isn't.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I find smalltalk with people I don’t really know to be extremely challenging and tiring. And yet with people I do know, or in conversations on topics where I feel confident, I struggle to shut myself up. FWIW, this pretty much exactly describes an introvert. Being introverted doesn't mean you don't like socialising at all.

There are so many definitions of introvert that it’s mostly lost any meaning.

Perhaps, but this sounds like what someone who doesn't know many extraverts would say.

If your default preferred way of being isn't "with other people" -- to the point where you feel anxious when you're alone for any reasonable length of time -- you're probably some flavor of introvert?

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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I wonder how people recognize you from your writing since your face isn’t attached to it. I do see the micro-celebrity in action with my adult son, who is a YouTuber. People recognize him pretty often, so his small following must be relatively local and has this effect. But that’s video where he can easily be recognized. On a related note, I often wonder how people are so sure it’s him. If I see a video of someone, I…

It depends on how you publish - on medium the face is hidden, but if you have a personal blog it's easy to make your face and name up front (eg my own https://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/life/lessons-learned-...).

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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It is. It's also more than that.

Writing is a communication medium.

For some of the reasons we want to communicate, it's the perfect tool for the job. For some of the reasons we want to communicate it's a bit rubbish.

Writing is extremely abstract. It has less of a connection to our subconscious, it's a long, long way from the real world. Humans are creatures driven by human shaped, in person interaction.

Quieter cats love writing for exactly that reason, the emotional ups and downs are much more mellow.

I find though, many people use writing and other tools as a band-aid for how they deal with their emotions. Instead of exploring them.

Instead of seeking, enjoying, laughing, crying, being curious about at all the joys of life, they use multiple abstractions to control their emotions.

Rather than throwing themselves into an emotional whirlwind and growing as a person, they throw up safety barriers. They never figure out how they, themselves actually work.

They'll happily devote years of their lives towards optimizing language compilers, without even thinking to learn what makes the Mountain Dew compiler tick.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

#45

The biggest challenge is getting people to read what you wrote, and care enough to respond. I started a blog recently where I want to write notes for my writing practice and explore different subjects I'm interested in. Of course it'd be nice if someone had actually read it, for my personal vanity, and all those conversations and opportunities people claim blogging leads to. But it's not the kind of project it would…

I relate to this. I'm writing whatever scratches my itch, and most of the value comes from the writing itself.

But, of course it'd be nice if some people read what I wrote? When I post to reddit or hn I get good traffic and some discussion, but that has all the problems you discuss.

There are probably only a few dozen people who enjoy regularly reading this sort of content, they probably write too. I'd love to find them and start a private chat server where we could read each other's pieces.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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post #26

The biggest challenge is getting people to read what you wrote, and care enough to respond. I started a blog recently where I want to write notes for my writing practice and explore different subjects I'm interested in. Of course it'd be nice if someone had actually read it, for my personal vanity, and all those conversations and opportunities people claim blogging leads to. But it's not the kind of project it would…

Maybe someone somewhere will come up with a NLP based solution which will cluster people with similar ideas (by means of their blogs) so that you may find people who share your interests within the cluster or explore other idea clusters. Would be a great way of making friends if nothing else.

I think this could be achieved by indexing only tags on blog posts. Aside from having to groom the tag corpus (maintaining sets of synonyms would probably be a big part), this would seem to be a fairly pain-free way of deriving some of these associations. It could be extended into "hmm, what other things are the people I share this with also interested in," which happens to be just about where I think the entire field of recommendation engine research should have ended. But I digress.

Yes, you would have to use tags to participate if you weren't already, but that just makes it opt-in.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have no interest in low quality conversations These are typically a gateway/warm-up to high quality conversations.

"Typically" is a bit overly optimistic IMO. "Possibly" seems more accurate - low quality conversations (e.g. the weather, sports, etc.) are typically just psychological glue so folks don't feel awkward during silence. And I think it's fair to say that extroverts value that glue more than introverts, generally speaking. For an introvert, the value of the glue may even be exceeded by the cost of discussing some random…

I agree that possibly is a better term.

I'm very introverted myself, but I realized if I'm trying to make friends or whatever I have to deal with the small talk.

I think there is a vanishingly small amount of people - even amongst introverts - that will jump straight into the deep end of a discussion with someone right off the bat. Most of my introvert friends also engage in warm up small talk before talking about whatever it is we talk about.

That said, I don't make small talk with strangers unless I'm interested in making them a friend or acquaintance: so I suppose your opportunity cost perspective still applies, as I definitely don't make small talk just to make a silence more comfortable.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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I wonder how people recognize you from your writing since your face isn’t attached to it. I do see the micro-celebrity in action with my adult son, who is a YouTuber. People recognize him pretty often, so his small following must be relatively local and has this effect. But that’s video where he can easily be recognized. On a related note, I often wonder how people are so sure it’s him. If I see a video of someone, I…

tl;dr: faces usually don't matter

I read blogs from authors I have no idea what they look like or where they live or anything, some for almost 20 years, and longer than even that with ppl on IRC. All you need is some consistent identity for people to internalize, which in a lot of cases is a nickname, username, or whatever. Heck, I'm certain a site that used only database IDs to identify users would see (stronger, perhaps) connections form just the same as you see on LinkedIn. "On 11/21/21, 384372 wrote:..." Furthermore I'd bet that there are people who still think to themselves something like "I wonder what happened to 'gardenfloot' on Napster."

>On a related note, I often wonder how people are so sure it’s him.

It's him because it's his (I assume) channel and username. That's a reasonable assumption under the social contract such that any aberration would likely be an emergency or a successful hack or something. There have also been groups of people who act as a single online identity, but yours doesn't sound like it's that at all.

I also think celebrity itself is transforming into something a little less oriented around mobbing and paparazzi, and that being recognized is something relative nobodies can get and somebodies can lose, increasing the number of doppelgangers and diluting the entire celebrity industry.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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I used to run a services business, and thought that attending conferences and meet-ups would give me business. Networking (in real life) is not something I enjoyed - but had to do to get more business.

Some of the best business and personal relationships I've had IRL, have been a byproduct of writing something online.

Some the advantages that I can think of 1. Putting yourself out there has a lot more scale when you broadcast your thoughts by writing online. Even reaching 10s of people takes more time in real life. 2. Cumulative and compounding - someone can find out a lot more about you by just reading more of the things that you've written about in the past. 3. Pull vs Push - It lets the best connections come to you - instead of putting the impetus on you finding the best connection.

Re: Writing is networking for introverts

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post #11

I don't see how it would be - most of what's written is never read.

If you see it the other way around - you just need one person to discover your writing to unlock the depth of your thinking as a person.

Writing for the internet > Doing that one on one through networking IRL

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