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But QR codes aren't being tracked. If I'm not mistaking, storing them is in violation of a bunch of laws. If not, such laws can be made. Privacy is hardly an issue.
The police in Australia have made multiple attempts to access QR code data to track down criminals. So yes, privacy is always an issue.
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> But the vaccinated are being infected at higher rates than the non-vaccinated according to UK govt data I just checked your source and can't find anything to confirm your claim. Just take the latest vaccine surveillance report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... and please do tell me where it confirms your claim that vaccinated people are infected at higher rates than the non-vaccinated.…
See the table on page 23. 2nd and 3rd columns. Like all stats treat with caution - see comments on p24.
At the same time I have been looking at the other columns as well. The first column shows the rate of infection in people that have just tested positive. The other three columns show how much more dangerous the virus is to people who have not been vaccinated and end up in the hospital. Way more unvaccinated people end up in the hospital than vaccinated people. At the same time, way more cases of unvaccinated people that ended up in the hospital end in death than in cases of vaccinated people. The hospitalisation rates in the unvaccinated populations are from 2 to up to 4 times higher than in vaccinated populations. The death rates even more so show this discrepancy between the cases that end up in death coming from unvaccinated vs. vaccinated people.
Besides that, there are some very important pieces of information missing in this entire story. We do not know how many people have had previous infections. Read the following comment on p24: > people who have never been vaccinated are more likely to have caught COVID-19 in the weeks or months before the period of the cases covered in the report. This gives them some natural immunity to the virus for a few months which may have contributed to a lower case rate in the past few weeks
With that being said, I give you that, you are right in the fact that there are more infections in the vaccinated population than in the unvaccinated, but at the same time the former seem to have a better time after contracting the virus than the latter (proof are the death rates).
With that being said, I do not think that the right decision is to dump the vaccination certificates/passports, rather I think the right decision would be to further implement the certificate as a requirement alongside periodic testing. It has been proven in other parts of the world that the vaccination certificate is indeed an incentive for people to get the vaccine, which in turn would help the hospitalisation rates fall. Testing is still detrimental.
In my country, they have recently started with jews-in-nazi-Germany fearmongering. It's incredible, how fast does the Facebook schismogenesis work. "We all need to get vaccinated!" "But I am afraid!" "You are unsafe for your community and should be ashamed!" "I don't want to be stigmatized. Why are you pushing this so hard?" "You are now required to prove that you have complied to live a normal life." "This is litera…
> a syndicated stream of uncredentialed nobodies who have just happened to win an algorithmic [lottery] This might be the most appropriate description of social media that I ever got to read.
It has also successfully acquired user base that was never really acquainted with netiquette of such moderated spaces. Namely the generation of my parents.
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It all feels too eerily familiar to those dismissing privacy concerns because 'well if you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be worried.' As if vaccine passports and mandates etc would be used for anything not positive and helpful to the public...
But QR codes aren't being tracked. If I'm not mistaking, storing them is in violation of a bunch of laws. If not, such laws can be made. Privacy is hardly an issue.
Here's an idea for a next trendy protest: Drunk people against restrictions on driving. Cuz if you're drunk and evil fascist 3rd reich billgates police stops you, then your rights have been violated.
How about we force gastric bands on everyone instead to stop this obesity pandemic, the death toll is unbearable any longer. That sound 'trendy' for you? Just need to media to drum up all the fear about how eating crap is contagious and you eating less saves the lives of others who get your excess food. Still trendy?
Here's an idea for a next trendy protest: Drunk people against restrictions on driving. Cuz if you're drunk and evil fascist 3rd reich billgates police stops you, then your rights have been violated.
How about we force gastric bands on everyone instead to stop this obesity pandemic, the death toll is unbearable any longer. That sound 'trendy' for you? Just need to media to drum up all the fear about how eating crap is contagious and you eating less saves the lives of others who get your excess food. Still trendy?
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Huh? The NHS COVID Pass does. It allows sharing vaccine status in both domestic and international contexts.
The vaccine does not protect against infection, it only reduces that risk. The pass only says you've had the vaccine, not that you're covid negative.
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See the table on page 23. 2nd and 3rd columns. Like all stats treat with caution - see comments on p24.
Thank you. I have just looked at the table and you seem to be right. The infection rate in the age range 30 to 80 is higher for vaccinated than unvaccinated. For the other groups it is higher in the unvaccinated populations (≤30, 80≥). It seems like vaccinated people in the age range 30 to 80 seems to behave more careless due to the fact that they are vaccinated and happen to catch the virus. At the same time I have…
What is the point of the passport if you can do effective pre-testing and the vaccine does not prevent covid in itself?
One has to wonder why these protests, which happen every week and are big, barely get reported in the media. When they are mentioned many people denounce them as being a bunch of anti-vaxxers. This is far from true, but like so much propoganda nowadays has an element of truth. Personally, I'm pro-vaccine, double jabbed and luckily no bad experiences with side effects. But I'm vehemently anti-vaccine passport. Every o…
> vaccine passports are likely to be if anything counterproductive Clearly, or at least there are absolutely zero studies to show they are helping in any way. And yet more and more countries are trying to impose them in lockstep fashion.
How long have COVID-19 vaccine passports existed?
So I hope that these dangerous protests get crushed by the respective governments.