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Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I agree, I disabled my voicemail a decade ago for this exact reason (it's a lot slower and more of a faff if you're in public) but unfortunately some people in my life are adopting voice messaging and there's not a lot I can do beyond a polite "I'd rather you didn't do that". It's definitely a much worse experience for the recipient, I think new social norms of asking first are probably the best solution. I wouldn't…

There are ways to regulate the burden. If I can't privately listen right now, I don't, and if they get annoyed, I'll tell them why. If something would require me to replay it multiple times to take notes, depending on the situation I'll tell the sender to type it up. It isn't a matter of trying to punish, it is negotiating preferences. Send me something I have to interact with, and it may well take me some time to ge…

Phew! For a split second, I thought you were suggesting that the government should regulate this.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I do think that voice messaging is a waste of time compared to reading. You can read fast enough to churn out information, but you need to wait for every second to digest the information in a voice call.

> you need to wait for every second to digest the information in a voice call.

That's highly person-dependent. Some kind of auditory processing disorder runs in my family, and I definitely have it. Under a lot of conditions, I need to spend extra time to digest and understand what has been said.

But not everyone is like this. For a lot of people, hearing is digesting, is understanding.

And like many things, people presume that their own experience is the universal experience- you presume everyone needs to digest, and the person sending you the audio message presumes everyone can process it instantly.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I understand why people use it but as a recipient I really hate voice messages. Here in Spain they are becoming more common too. The problem is as the article mentions. Difficulty searching back, not being able to use Google translate (I'm still learning Spanish), and the time it takes to listen to them. Sending a voice message is faster than typing for the sender but much slower than reading for the recipient which…

That is when you undermine the concept of voice messaging. "hey I got your message but it was all distorted, could you txt me the details"

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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post #41

I do think that voice messaging is a waste of time compared to reading. You can read fast enough to churn out information, but you need to wait for every second to digest the information in a voice call.

"Ehm, I wanted to tell you, you know, eventually (...)" >You can read fast enough to churn out information, but you need to wait for every second to digest the information in a voice call. This can happen, but I can reread the message or just parts of it fairly easy. With voice messages it's getting annoying when you need to rewind to a specific part of it, especially if the message is 2-3 minutes long.

And there is also the audio quality and background noise, but it's a different topic.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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It would be nice if there was a speech-to-text included automatically with voice messages. Even if it's imperfect, you could still listen to the original voice message if there's a hiccup, but it would make it at least searchable and readable in places where playing audio would be frowned upon.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I understand why people use it but as a recipient I really hate voice messages. Here in Spain they are becoming more common too. The problem is as the article mentions. Difficulty searching back, not being able to use Google translate (I'm still learning Spanish), and the time it takes to listen to them. Sending a voice message is faster than typing for the sender but much slower than reading for the recipient which…

I feel the same about consuming any kind of information. Most of the time, a well written article trumps a podcast or video 6:1. It's the same for a text message vs. voice message.

I wrote the above post and I agree 100%

My work has been trying to promote e-learning with ted talk-like videos and I absolutely hate it. It's not just about the speed.

I can learn so much quicker with text. I can skim through the parts I already know and spend more time on the parts I need to carefully consider. With video I need to skip around and it's hard to keep track of what's being discussed then.

I think it's really the younger people in the organisation that ask for it because they're used to youtubes. I rarely watch youtube, probably once a month or so. Makes sense but they try to push it on everyone by setting a goal of so many videos to do.

However even when I was young I thought that classroom teaching was inefficient and I could learn much better myself. One of the problems (also with video) is that you have to slow to the speed of the slowest participant.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I understand why people use it but as a recipient I really hate voice messages. Here in Spain they are becoming more common too. The problem is as the article mentions. Difficulty searching back, not being able to use Google translate (I'm still learning Spanish), and the time it takes to listen to them. Sending a voice message is faster than typing for the sender but much slower than reading for the recipient which…

> don't want to bother your surroundings all apps with voice messages I happened to use support playback through voice speaker, if you put the phone to the ear as if you were just speaking with someone but I don't really remember how I discovered that and it seems that majority of users don't even know about this feature

Yeah I know that's an option too but it's annoying... It means it's even more time-consuming because it ties up one hand as well as my attention for the duration of the message.

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I understand why people use it but as a recipient I really hate voice messages. Here in Spain they are becoming more common too. The problem is as the article mentions. Difficulty searching back, not being able to use Google translate (I'm still learning Spanish), and the time it takes to listen to them. Sending a voice message is faster than typing for the sender but much slower than reading for the recipient which…

WeChat handles this really well in Chinese. It will transcribe voice messages silently complete with suitable emojis if the message is particularly emotional.

That's super impressive, and extremely useful!

Re: Fifty percent of Facebook Messenger’s total voice traffic comes from Cambodia

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I understand why people use it but as a recipient I really hate voice messages. Here in Spain they are becoming more common too. The problem is as the article mentions. Difficulty searching back, not being able to use Google translate (I'm still learning Spanish), and the time it takes to listen to them. Sending a voice message is faster than typing for the sender but much slower than reading for the recipient which…

I agree, I disabled my voicemail a decade ago for this exact reason (it's a lot slower and more of a faff if you're in public) but unfortunately some people in my life are adopting voice messaging and there's not a lot I can do beyond a polite "I'd rather you didn't do that". It's definitely a much worse experience for the recipient, I think new social norms of asking first are probably the best solution. I wouldn't…

> It's definitely a much worse experience for the recipient, I think new social norms of asking first are probably the best solution. I wouldn't ring someone who wasn't expecting a call without asking them if they were free to call first for example, and I think the same should apply to voice messages.

True, the latter is definitely a good change. I noticed it in work too, people don't call without asking first. It's really a great norm because you can say "just give me 5 minutes to complete this" when you're concentrating.

Of course it was never a norm before because text messaging didn't exist but it makes sense.

It would be great if people started doing that too for voice messages.

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