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Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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I think school choice is the ideal middle ground. Schools can offer a variety of ways to teach and parents can pick from them / start their own school and provide another offering. One size fits all is bound to cause problems as our society becomes more diverse and accepting.

That’s promoting school choice. (Which I support) A very political topic. As one side is very against it

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Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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I think school choice is the ideal middle ground. Schools can offer a variety of ways to teach and parents can pick from them / start their own school and provide another offering. One size fits all is bound to cause problems as our society becomes more diverse and accepting.

That’s promoting school choice. (Which I support) A very political topic. As one side is very against it

It seems like the same folks who advocate for school choice are pro-vouchers, which logically follows, even if I disagree, but also anti-funding reform for public schools. It seems like some wealthy folks want to have access to good quality schools at the expense of less wealthy folks, but with many layers of abstraction and misdirection.

I wish we would fund schools directly and fairly, instead of how we do it now via local property taxes. This results in wealthy areas with wealthy schools, which is fine, but those schools have disproportionately higher spending per student than lower income schools in poorer areas.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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For stories like this, 99% of the time it’s a government institution. That’s because the primary purpose of these is to leech money off people to provide an inferior service. This happens because the worse the service the more money they get. “We need more funding” is their common cry but the marginal dollar provides zero or negative value as even more corrupt leeches flock to the system to extract all excess dollars…

I had this explained once by a civil engineer planning highway work. He said that teams who finish on-time and on-budget charge more. Newer teams less likely to meet requirements charge less to account for the higher risk. So it’s a risk vs. cost curve. In civil engineering, risk is taken seriously and the cheaper pitches are less-often taken. In IT, decision makers don’t yet understand the risks so they always accep…

The interesting thing is that the technology to bypass this problem exists. There are early completion bonuses and late completion penalties. Both were available for the MacArthur Maze in Oakland, California.

That project finished rapidly. The reason for that is that it was important.

Most infrastructure is unimportant. We don’t need it. There is no marginal economic gain to it that justifies the spend (in time, and money) unless accounting for the political support provided by local pressure groups.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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It's just not extremely religious parents, and comparing them to Taliban says a lot about you. And who should dictate what kind of material school teach? Who should decide that this is benefitial to children and that is a harmful propaganda? Parents should have a say, because they are well, parents.

Attempted insurrection in January.

Texas SB8.

Various anti-trans policies.

Conjured up CRT bogeyman.

The list goes on and on. If you don’t see parallels between fundamentalist Christians in the US and other religious extremists and their authoritarian leaders elsewhere, I don’t know what to say.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Schools should never be autonomous, but I dont believe they should be considered to work for parents either Schools should work to produce well rounded educated productive citizens for the community. That includes the parents, but also includes childless citizens, businesses, etc. The politics of both parents, AND teachers have muddled the true mission of what a school should be. I would like to see schools return to…

> Schools should work to produce well rounded educated productive citizens for the community. No. Children are not a commodity, to be molded by the needs of the state by the educational industrial complex. Children are people. Their own interests should be paramount. Not those of the community, the state, or even the parents. (The parents are generally more trusted because they have their children’s best interest at…

> Their own interests should be paramount

There’s a limit, though. If we followed this to it’s logical conclusion then vocational training in schools would be limited to firefighting and pilot training.

At a certain point kids can’t lead you in the right direction because they don’t know where they’re going yet. Guidance is in their interest even if it goes against their desire at that point in time.

> Not those of the community, the state

But most kids have their education free at the point of delivery, paid for by the community and state. So it’s inevitable they have a say in things. If you don’t want that then homeschooling or private schooling is a viable option.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Schools should work for kids. Period. They often don’t, but let’s keep our focus. Schools need to collaborate with parents to work for kids. Parents need to collaborate with schools to work for kids.

As a parent of five kids, I think the problem is in many districts, the schools do not want to collaborate with the parents. In fact, it seems like whenever possible, the schools do things to make it harder for parents to collaborate, especially on actual education: * Objectives are rarely published so parents can understand what is being taught. * Common core math makes it impossible for parents who did not learn co…

Why should pupils be barred from learning math and science just because the parents did not enjoy sufficient education? It's one of the core tasks of the school system to ensure that pupils do not suffer disadvantages from their parent's educational background.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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Hello fellow Nebraskan! If you’d extend this to Elkhorn my kids (and I) would think you’re a wizard!

Ha, maybe! We got lucky that Papillion’s menu has a json feed. If Elkhorn does too then it’s doable. But seems most districts are stuck in pdf files

Still doable. AWS have a tool for parsing JSON files and turning them into a JSON feed: Textract. Given you’d already be inside the AWS ecosystem building the Alexa skill, it would make some sense leveraging that service.

Re: Parents built a school app. Then the city called the cops

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The problem is parents want to pass on their own brainwashing down to their children. Like teaching creationism or that slaveowners were good people. Creating more brainwashed citizens hurts all of us.

So you're sure that the brainwashing the state picks is the correct version?

Generally yes when they leave it to the professional educators. The problem is when politicians start meddling like all the conservative laws in response to the current CRT panic.
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