When I studied there in 2004-2007 (Art History and Archeology of all things) Leipzig was just amazing. It was raw, chaotic and dirt cheap. I lived in the very center of the city in Hainstrasse, right next to the market and the street with all the bars. I had a beautiful 70 square meter apartment as a student that I paid 320 Euro a month for. Down in Suedvorstadt things got even crazier. We went to underground bars wi…
Leipzig: A walk around a city reborn
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#42When I studied there in 2004-2007 (Art History and Archeology of all things) Leipzig was just amazing. It was raw, chaotic and dirt cheap. I lived in the very center of the city in Hainstrasse, right next to the market and the street with all the bars. I had a beautiful 70 square meter apartment as a student that I paid 320 Euro a month for. Down in Suedvorstadt things got even crazier. We went to underground bars wi…
> the crazy punks and metalheads of 2004 have grown into eco-conscious citizens Isn't some of that just generational change? In the US, kids seem a lot more tame these days than kids of the previous few decades. They have a different set of pressures, and social media has grown in power quite a bit over a decade.
Can you imagine watching your parents flame war over politics and social issues on fucking Facebook? I feel like the only way to rebel would be to act like an adult.
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#43I live in Leipzig. The best thing is IMHO that we have the Grüner GÜrtel ("green belt") which is a pretty large area of real primeval forest right crossing through the town and suround the city core. In future outer leipzig will be surrounded by seas (7 Seen gebiet) which emerged from old mining holes and are all connected with each other.
"surrounded by lakes", not seas. European languages are weird for lakes and seas. French mer != Dutch meer. German see != English sea.
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#44When I studied there in 2004-2007 (Art History and Archeology of all things) Leipzig was just amazing. It was raw, chaotic and dirt cheap. I lived in the very center of the city in Hainstrasse, right next to the market and the street with all the bars. I had a beautiful 70 square meter apartment as a student that I paid 320 Euro a month for. Down in Suedvorstadt things got even crazier. We went to underground bars wi…
When I went over to Germany for my Oma's 80th birthday in 2001 or so my girlfriend (now wife) and I made a trip out of it and were going from the party (which was in Bavaria, though my grandparents are from Mainz) to Berlin afterwards to visit friends and check out the city. When I was telling my Opa and his friend about our plans, his Bavarian friend remarked something like "Ah, yes, Berlin, it's not very nice now,…
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In Saxony yes, but not in Leipzig. About 50% of my colleagues are foreigners and they all love the city -- it's very international and you can come by with English in most places. Little caveat obviously: there are also quarters where it's not that simple and you are looked at sideways if you have the "wrong" skin tone -- Grünau, Gohlis-Nord etc. But these are the parts of the city tourists usually don't visit...
Anecdote time! I had a much harder time trying to get by as a white anglophone in Leipzig for about a month in 2018 than I had in Berlin, but much of that was admittedly my own anxiety around asking people for help in the wrong way, and travel-green-ness. For example, I definitely can't pronounce entschuldigung correctly! As in well enough for people to know what I said. I then often perceived a palpable disdain or e…
They are allmost incomprehensible for natives, too. They could be a textbook example of bad UX design.
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When I went over to Germany for my Oma's 80th birthday in 2001 or so my girlfriend (now wife) and I made a trip out of it and were going from the party (which was in Bavaria, though my grandparents are from Mainz) to Berlin afterwards to visit friends and check out the city. When I was telling my Opa and his friend about our plans, his Bavarian friend remarked something like "Ah, yes, Berlin, it's not very nice now,…
A great look with a lense at what is going in Berlin is the documentary "Punks vs. Billionaires" by Vice. [0] The bar in question was truly like the guys in the video were describing it: A living room for people who didn't have one at home. And it isn't the only one, so many of the essential spaces for working class people in my neighborhood died in the last few years. Rents exploded and people get pushed out of the…
Don't know why, but I stopped being shocked by the things I saw in that documentary a while ago.
"Super rich corporate entity buying properties in soon-to-be hotspots while avoiding taxes through complex foreign based shell structures, with the working class squeezed to death by higher rents and taxes, all while our elected officials look the other way since they've been well greased, wined and dined and their privately schooled kids are offered top positions in said corporate entities", has become such a common M.O. behind the façade of free market capitalism, that I'm not even surprised at this point.
I just wonder when we'll have the next violent revolution or civil war and radical regime change as inequality can't continue to rise like this forever and still have a stable and peaceful, functioning society.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the crazy punks and metalheads of 2004 have grown into eco-conscious citizens Isn't some of that just generational change? In the US, kids seem a lot more tame these days than kids of the previous few decades. They have a different set of pressures, and social media has grown in power quite a bit over a decade.
I think the last few generations have ruined rebelliousness by yelling a lot on the internet. Can you imagine watching your parents flame war over politics and social issues on fucking Facebook? I feel like the only way to rebel would be to act like an adult.
Why are people surprised about this? This is all old news.
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I'm surprised at the German case -- isn't U-boat a colloquial term for Unterseeboot ?
Yup. German is really weird because you have both „die See“ (the sea) and „der See“ (the lake)
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#49For comparison, take a trip through Leipzig ~1990, After 40 years of socialism: https://youtu.be/_cDOqb53Kfk
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I think the last few generations have ruined rebelliousness by yelling a lot on the internet. Can you imagine watching your parents flame war over politics and social issues on fucking Facebook? I feel like the only way to rebel would be to act like an adult.
TL;DR: Most activities we used to do as kids have now moved on-line. Socializing, playing, fighting, loitering, dating, shopping, going to the cinema, etc. is now on Instagram, Snapchat, Tinder, Discord, Twitter, Amazon, PSN, Xbox-Live, Netflix, etc. Why are people surprised about this? This is all old news.
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