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Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by gruez » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:45 PM UTC

Tepix wrote: post #12

vadfa wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under European law it is reasonably impossible for an individual to run a forum or blog which is open to comments: > The EU just passed TERREG yesterday without a vote that requires anyone running a website with user generated content (a blog with comments, a forum etc.) and if they have significant EU user base to establish legal presence in the EU and have an officer responsible for deleting content with 1 hr SLA.…

Let's see: " Geldstrafen für Anbieter, die aus technischen oder betrieblichen Gründen einer Löschanordnung nicht innerhalb einer Stunde nachkommen können (z.B. private Webseitenbetreiber zur Nachtzeit), sind ausgeschlossen. " In english: " Fines for providers who cannot comply with a deletion order within one hour for technical or operational reasons (e.g. private website operators at night time) are excluded. " So..…

>"Fines for providers who cannot comply with a deletion order within one hour for technical or operational reasons (e.g. private website operators at night time) are excluded."

>So... you're wrong.

Whether he's actually wrong hinges on what counts as "operational reasons". If it's during business hours and I'm out for lunch, does that count? What if I'm in the office/home but I left DnD mode on?

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by rapsey » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:45 PM UTC

Bellamy wrote: post #39

Hetzner claims to use 100% green energy: https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server https://www.hetzner.com/unternehmen/umweltschutz/ I heard from reliable sources that it's total greenwashing and bullshit, but I don't know how to research that further. Makes sense though if they are so much cheaper than others.

Aren't green energy claims in general bullshit.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by tiffanyh » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:49 PM UTC

It appears this is only for Hetzner cloud.

Hopefully this means dedicated servers will come soon.

For those unaware, Hetzner truly has unbeatable pricing. Pricing that's even substantially cheaper than OVH.

I welcome competition.

EDIT: what's odd is that on their FAQ [0] they state dedicated AMD servers are available in Ashburn, but when I go to their actual dedicated server page [1] - no US locations are listed for any dedicated offering.

[0] https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/

[1] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by dx034 » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:51 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #43

It appears this is only for Hetzner cloud. Hopefully this means dedicated servers will come soon. For those unaware, Hetzner truly has unbeatable pricing. Pricing that's even substantially cheaper than OVH. I welcome competition. EDIT: what's odd is that on their FAQ [0] they state dedicated AMD servers are available in Ashburn, but when I go to their actual dedicated server page [1] - no US locations are listed for…

They didn't build their own dc, so cost will be much higher than with their own data centers. Cloud has higher margins, I don't think they'll be able to offer dedicated servers at the same price. Maybe if cloud takes off there they use it as a basis to build their own data center though. But the one in Finland took a few years from their first announcement so I don't think this will come soon. I'd imagine we see other cloud locations in 3rd party data centers before that.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by 19h » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:51 PM UTC

kjaftaedi wrote: post #20

Hetzner deleted all of my vms after getting erroneously flagged by their abuse department due to my account details. (nothing to do with my machines) They sent me an email saying my account was paused and to contact them to resolve it, which I did within half an hour. My account was reinstated minus all of my environment.. just a blank account. They deleted everything and told me they had no way to restore it. Beware…

I’m running $2500 worth of servers on Hetzner privately since 2015 and about $400 worth of VMs on Hetzner Cloud. The only instance of issues with them was Hetzner locking the outgoing traffic of a VM after it started bursting a few million packets to the local network in an infinite loop. I called them, they explained it, I fixed it and they unblocked it. Pretty happy with Hetzner. The traffic that goes over some of my servers would be $50k+ per month on AWS.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by emteycz » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:52 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #41

Tepix wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see: " Geldstrafen für Anbieter, die aus technischen oder betrieblichen Gründen einer Löschanordnung nicht innerhalb einer Stunde nachkommen können (z.B. private Webseitenbetreiber zur Nachtzeit), sind ausgeschlossen. " In english: " Fines for providers who cannot comply with a deletion order within one hour for technical or operational reasons (e.g. private website operators at night time) are excluded. " So..…

>"Fines for providers who cannot comply with a deletion order within one hour for technical or operational reasons (e.g. private website operators at night time) are excluded." >So... you're wrong. Whether he's actually wrong hinges on what counts as "operational reasons". If it's during business hours and I'm out for lunch, does that count? What if I'm in the office/home but I left DnD mode on?

As with anything EU, that's left for the bureaucrats to judge (social paradises don't need courts).

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by magnat » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:54 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #38

wardb wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

besides the short network outage a few weeks ago it has been rock solid for me in the CA datacenter

They also had small issue in Strasbourg earlier this year.

small issue = whole datacenter burned down

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by dx034 » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:54 PM UTC

Bellamy wrote: post #39

Hetzner claims to use 100% green energy: https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server https://www.hetzner.com/unternehmen/umweltschutz/ I heard from reliable sources that it's total greenwashing and bullshit, but I don't know how to research that further. Makes sense though if they are so much cheaper than others.

They'll probably buy certificates, as do most providers with these labels. As they refer to hydro power, I'm sure they haven't built their own power plants. But I don't think "small" companies have other options if they want to use renewable energy.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by polycaster » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:57 PM UTC

Bellamy wrote: post #39

Hetzner claims to use 100% green energy: https://www.hetzner.com/managed-server https://www.hetzner.com/unternehmen/umweltschutz/ I heard from reliable sources that it's total greenwashing and bullshit, but I don't know how to research that further. Makes sense though if they are so much cheaper than others.

In the video posted by displus somewhere else in this thread they claim to have a location completely powered by wind energy.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Post by mistrial9 » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 12:58 PM UTC

hetzner locked my account because my manager put it in my name, and then much later, stopped paying it. OK, but they seem to treat me as a scammer since I am in the USA.