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Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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post #36

> We all have SSDs in our laptops now. These are hard to wipe Not at all if you have an OPAL SSD which are quite common these days. These have a key which encrypts the data at rest and a user facing passphrase which decrypts this key. If you override the encrypting key, the rest of the data is gone unless you can break AES.

What happens when you delete data?

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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I was given a C64 with a case of floppies by a friend. It had been sitting in their attic not doing anything. The friend is also a nerd and was given it by a widow after her husband died as she "didn't know any computer stuff." Really weird feeling going through this guy's documents that survived.

Sadly something got shot on the board and I don't have the EE skills to fix or diagnose.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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I worked for Peter Gabriel (musician). He was throwing out his old iBook, so I took it. It had all his files on it, and all his logins. I could still log into his AOL email account. I erased everything, pointed the browser to https://www.worldsdumbestgame.com/ , wrapped an elastic band around it to hold the button down and put it in a cupboard for two years.

You should have used a sledgehammer. No pun intended.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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> a DOS porn text adventure It's not porn if it's text. It was interesting explaining the English vocabulary in a Chinese class that covered how to refer to porn. 黄色的电影 ["yellow movie"]: "dirty movie" 黄色的图片 ["yellow picture"]: "dirty picture" 黄色的杂志 ["yellow magazine"]: "dirty magazine" 黄色的书 ["yellow book"]: "romance novel" There's a double standard in English, where pornographic books can't actually be porn because w…

Meanwhile in English, "Yellow journalism" is an old-timey synonym for clickbait.

Yellow journalism refers to something more malicious than clickbait does.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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> a DOS porn text adventure It's not porn if it's text. It was interesting explaining the English vocabulary in a Chinese class that covered how to refer to porn. 黄色的电影 ["yellow movie"]: "dirty movie" 黄色的图片 ["yellow picture"]: "dirty picture" 黄色的杂志 ["yellow magazine"]: "dirty magazine" 黄色的书 ["yellow book"]: "romance novel" There's a double standard in English, where pornographic books can't actually be porn because w…

> It's not porn if it's text. Actual English usage rather emphatically disagrees with you. [0] > There's a double standard in English, where pornographic books can't actually be porn because women don't consume porn. No, there’s not. But “romance novels” aren't that, though arguably an adjacent category (whereas “erotic fiction” is an overlapping, but not identical, category to “pornographic fiction”.) But English do…

> But English does not hold that what woman consume is not porn (and, in fact, you’ll find extensive English language studies of how women consume what is uncontroversially porn.)

You can find extensive English-language studies of many phenomena that people prefer to pretend never happen. That doesn't mean the pretense isn't there.

> “blue movie” is correct, if somewhat dated; the rest are, at best, never as widely used.

As best I could tell, the "blue" terminology is correct Indian English; I would have no qualms about labeling it incorrect American English. No one I've mentioned this to has ever even heard of the term.

> Actual English usage rather emphatically disagrees with you. [0]

This would be a more convincing rebuttal if the page was willing to describe more than 12 books as "pornographic novels".

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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post #20

I used to salvage a lot of discarded PCs (use the parts, refurbish, etc.). I quickly decided on a rule to immediately wipe any hard drive, and destroy any drive that couldn't be wiped. One reason is that I'd been involved in some early online privacy discussions, so I had an awareness that snooping might be invasive. But if curiosity might tempt me to rationalize away the nagging sense of possible invasiveness, there…

Depending when you did this, it's possible you destroyed private keys to BTC. I always check any discarded computer I come across for that reason, before wiping.

What would you do if you found some, steal the BTC?

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not porn if it's text. Actual English usage rather emphatically disagrees with you. [0] > There's a double standard in English, where pornographic books can't actually be porn because women don't consume porn. No, there’s not. But “romance novels” aren't that, though arguably an adjacent category (whereas “erotic fiction” is an overlapping, but not identical, category to “pornographic fiction”.) But English do…

> But English does not hold that what woman consume is not porn (and, in fact, you’ll find extensive English language studies of how women consume what is uncontroversially porn.) You can find extensive English-language studies of many phenomena that people prefer to pretend never happen. That doesn't mean the pretense isn't there. > “blue movie” is correct, if somewhat dated; the rest are, at best, never as widely u…

> As best I could tell, the "blue" terminology is correct Indian English; I would have no qualms about labeling it incorrect American English. No one I've mentioned this to has ever even heard of the term.

Mostly Indian, but I've seen ocassional British reference to blue as an adjective for pornographic movies. Usually not 'blue movie', but "that's too blue for me" or something.

Also, a DVD by mail service originally based in San Francisco, GreenCine, had a sister site, BlueCine, which was porn. Otherwise, never seen it used in American context.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a DOS porn text adventure It's not porn if it's text. It was interesting explaining the English vocabulary in a Chinese class that covered how to refer to porn. 黄色的电影 ["yellow movie"]: "dirty movie" 黄色的图片 ["yellow picture"]: "dirty picture" 黄色的杂志 ["yellow magazine"]: "dirty magazine" 黄色的书 ["yellow book"]: "romance novel" There's a double standard in English, where pornographic books can't actually be porn because w…

> It's not porn if it's text. Well the Greek roots are literally "writing about prostitutes". I'd argue explicit depiction of sex for the sake of getting off is porn. In literature, drawing, photo, or video. There's even the audio form. English also has "erotica". Which is... porn which has some non-porn value? Semi-clothed porn? Most romance fiction is more to the clothed than unclothed end of the erotica spectrum,…

> Well the Greek roots are literally "writing about prostitutes".

I mean, if you want to follow the etymology the graph root means "scrape", because you write by scratching marks into a soft surface.

But the word (actually) refers equally to writing and pictures.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But English does not hold that what woman consume is not porn (and, in fact, you’ll find extensive English language studies of how women consume what is uncontroversially porn.) You can find extensive English-language studies of many phenomena that people prefer to pretend never happen. That doesn't mean the pretense isn't there. > “blue movie” is correct, if somewhat dated; the rest are, at best, never as widely u…

> As best I could tell, the "blue" terminology is correct Indian English; I would have no qualms about labeling it incorrect American English. No one I've mentioned this to has ever even heard of the term. Mostly Indian, but I've seen ocassional British reference to blue as an adjective for pornographic movies. Usually not 'blue movie', but "that's too blue for me" or something. Also, a DVD by mail service originally…

> I've seen occasional British reference to blue as an adjective for pornographic movies. Usually not 'blue movie', but "that's too blue for me" or something.

Try this in America and you'll get confusion and guesses that by 'blue' you mean 'sad'.

Re: Retro collectors are uncovering hoards of old data

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> “We all have SSDs in our laptops now. These are hard to wipe because they come with firmware that stops the same sector being written over multiple times. This means the data you want to wipe isn’t completely removed, or at the very least, can be recovered by someone sufficiently motivated,” he says.

Is that really true? The idea you need a million passes always struck me as dubious.

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