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EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by [deleted] »

ho_schi wrote: post #16
ChemSpider wrote: post #9

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

It is a success for the European Union. Not for the Europeans! I'm vaccinated and prefer to be around vaccinated people. Because of health? Yes. But also because of the mindset of people. But why is it not a success for Europeans? We had super easy travel before Covid - no borders - free settlement, travel and work. You've just carry your ID with you. Regarding the stolen keys? I'm afraid similar things will happen a…

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Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

toyg wrote: post #31
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #23

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So... from just driving across the border, it's got "super easy", by having to stop at every border crossing, "papers please", and "medical papers please"? I've traveled through the balkan in the 90s, and it was easier then, than now. And even during the war times, the travel was more consistent, and I didn't have to check the border crossing rules every day, because they didn't change that often.

This is not meant to be a "forever" state of things, hopefully we'll go back to basic Schengen rules when the emergency subsides. Sadly the virus is what it is, and compartimentalising systems as much as possible is necessary to fight it.

Yes, just 14 days to flatten the curve.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by toyg »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #42
toyg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not meant to be a "forever" state of things, hopefully we'll go back to basic Schengen rules when the emergency subsides. Sadly the virus is what it is, and compartimentalising systems as much as possible is necessary to fight it.

Yes, just 14 days to flatten the curve.

If everyone had locked down hard in those fateful months of last year, like China did, we wouldn't be here. But we didn't, and so we are here.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by chitowneats »

mrtksn wrote: post #22
chitowneats wrote: post #11

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"Super easy travel" is not how I would describe an application designed to ease the limiting of movement of people based on medical status.

>limit the movement of people based on medical status That's literally the idea behind fighting contagious diseases, widely used to defend islands and castles before the vaccines. People used to wait in ships for weeks before they can embark. We used to have castles insulated to keep an outbreak out of it's population. Through the history of humanity, countless people were lost to contagious diseases. The Green Pass…

I love these medieval analogies. They really put things in perspective, morally. Just in the opposite of the way they are intended.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

toyg wrote: post #43
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, just 14 days to flatten the curve.

If everyone had locked down hard in those fateful months of last year, like China did, we wouldn't be here. But we didn't, and so we are here.

Australia did just that... and then someone caughed across the border, and they did it again.. and again.. and again. And australia is an island, compared to europe, where people literally live, work and shop in different countries.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by Uberphallus »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #40
Uberphallus wrote: post #39

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Yeah, war is terrible but it ain't contagious.

It's not like there's not covid on the other side of the border too.

It's certainly not like you understand epidemiological dynamics, that's for sure.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by mrtksn »

chitowneats wrote: post #44
mrtksn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>limit the movement of people based on medical status That's literally the idea behind fighting contagious diseases, widely used to defend islands and castles before the vaccines. People used to wait in ships for weeks before they can embark. We used to have castles insulated to keep an outbreak out of it's population. Through the history of humanity, countless people were lost to contagious diseases. The Green Pass…

I love these medieval analogies. They really put things in perspective, morally. Just in the opposite of the way they are intended.

What's the perspective? Is it something like it's too barbaric to be susceptible to viruses in the 21st century? What is the moral angle here?

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by soco »

NoPie wrote: post #18
ChemSpider wrote: post #9

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

It is a tragedy as it has legitimised total control. In Latvia you cannot enter the shop without showing the certificate and passport. The control is even worse than during Soviet times.

The Soviets didn't have pandemics, but look at the measures imposed by the Chinese for a hint.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by soco »

pbak wrote: post #24
ChemSpider wrote: post #9

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

I swallowed a Mmmemberberry, and this came back to me : "I was 20 years old, before the USofA Congress voted for the Patriot Act. I was about to travel a short 1h hop by plane, and I walked directly to the gate from the parking, right in front of the plane. I presented my password and ticket to the attendant, and boarded." That's it. Nothing more to this memory.

That stopped with 9/11.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

NoPie wrote: post #38
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #32

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I think you're wrong here. They're not showing any Nazi style control, just hackers often display their results in ways that are edgy in order to draw attention to themselves from the mainstream media.

Well, they could have chosen the name of EU president or some head of the state, or Jesus. This one is selected with a message on top of all this attention seeking.

Nobody cares who the EU president is, but everyone in the word knows who Adolf Hitler was, so it's an edgy and effective way to grab headlines.
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