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Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by onetimemanytime »

tehwebguy wrote: post #23

Maybe the correct response to unconstitutional, secret warrants is to refuse to comply, maybe even refuse to respond? It's not clear to me what would happen next but I can't imagine Pichai would be arrested. Maybe a datacenter would be raided (could FBI even guess where this data might be physically located?) but at least then some public action would have to happen and break the secrecy.

>> Maybe the correct response to unconstitutional, secret warrants is to refuse to comply, maybe even refuse to respond?

Ummmm, no. Correct response is courts and then comply. Pichai would lose his job in a minute.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by tehjoker »

tehwebguy wrote: post #23

Maybe the correct response to unconstitutional, secret warrants is to refuse to comply, maybe even refuse to respond? It's not clear to me what would happen next but I can't imagine Pichai would be arrested. Maybe a datacenter would be raided (could FBI even guess where this data might be physically located?) but at least then some public action would have to happen and break the secrecy.

I know a guy that was working for a defense contractor in the 2000s that searched his military ranked boss's name on Google and told me he was told the next day not to do that anymore.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by xxpor »

mindslight wrote: post #31
tehwebguy wrote: post #23

Maybe the correct response to unconstitutional, secret warrants is to refuse to comply, maybe even refuse to respond? It's not clear to me what would happen next but I can't imagine Pichai would be arrested. Maybe a datacenter would be raided (could FBI even guess where this data might be physically located?) but at least then some public action would have to happen and break the secrecy.

The government and Google are symbiotic entities. Why would this ever happen?

Not even close. This sort of rhetoric just numbs people to actual abuses when they happen.

If you want to see actual symbiotic entities, go look at social media in China or American defense contractors.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by emayljames »

hyproxia wrote: post #30
colbyhub wrote: post #24

I made the switch from DDG to Startpage.com the day when Bing/DDG censored "tank man" results on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square, haven't looked back. I do miss the !bangs, so I have a browser shortcut to access those when I need them.

You're talking about the "tank man" that was safely escorted out of the scene without getting harmed? What about him? https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk

The only people killed where unarmed soldiers, that where burned alive by protesters.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by dmoy »

tehjoker wrote: post #42
tehwebguy wrote: post #23

Maybe the correct response to unconstitutional, secret warrants is to refuse to comply, maybe even refuse to respond? It's not clear to me what would happen next but I can't imagine Pichai would be arrested. Maybe a datacenter would be raided (could FBI even guess where this data might be physically located?) but at least then some public action would have to happen and break the secrecy.

I know a guy that was working for a defense contractor in the 2000s that searched his military ranked boss's name on Google and told me he was told the next day not to do that anymore.

I mean yea, everything you do at work in a defense contractor is keylogged. They don't need to ask Google, they know what you're doing on their network.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by tehjoker »

dmoy wrote: post #45
tehjoker wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a guy that was working for a defense contractor in the 2000s that searched his military ranked boss's name on Google and told me he was told the next day not to do that anymore.

I mean yea, everything you do at work in a defense contractor is keylogged. They don't need to ask Google, they know what you're doing on their network.

He said he did it from home though. I always wondered if he was making it up or not, but this was the Bush era (not that that much has changed).

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by JaimeThompson »

emayljames wrote: post #44
hyproxia wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're talking about the "tank man" that was safely escorted out of the scene without getting harmed? What about him? https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk

The only people killed where unarmed soldiers, that where burned alive by protesters.

That appears to be a someone counterfactual description of what happened. Supporting evidence would be of great help.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by WalterBright »

I've always assumed that was the case.

It's sort of like the license plate readers some communities have installed at the entryways to their community. Not only does it track people who aren't part of the community, it tracks all the comings and goings of the members, too. Oops.

If the information is there, it'll be used.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

cogman10 wrote: post #35
boibombeiro wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You can look up terrorism incidents in the US [1]. Far right extremism is far more likely the reason for terrorism in the US vs far left extremism. In recent years, 115 far right attacks vs 19 far left (from 2008 -> 2016). And that's with adding another category for Islamic terrorism (63) (which, in and of itself would be far right terrorism.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

well I mean generally far right terrorism isn't described or charged as terrorism is it? So it seems unlikely that they would track a white kid in case they turned in to a far right terrorist, because the narrative is that's not a problem.

Incompatible narratives should be resolved in one direction or another.

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