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Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

#41
The US already has a couple billionaires doing space stuff and one trying to eradicate things like polio so if this were a Civilization video game tech tree choice it would be amazing to pick the next billionaire (i.e. FB's Zuckerberg) to fully fund non-profit mental health centers across the country.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

#42

It's a company, companies work for profit. Free market should deal with that, but with what is basically a monopoly (atleast in userbase), regulators should do their job.

Yes, free market is not free-so-I-can-do-anything. It must have some regulations, or else all the corporations will become evil.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

#44
These headlines naïvely miss the point. The problem isn’t Facebook, a private company, seeking profits. The problem is its deeply-entrenched psychopathy and pathological record of lying [1].

And it really appears to be a Facebook problem. Instagram for Kids wasn’t the fever dream of a deranged Instagrammer. It was pushed by a Facebook implant [2].

I don’t know if being in proximity to Facebook’s leadership corrupts people. Or if they select broken folks to start with. But it’s a top down effect, and the main reason I lobby for breaking up the company.

[1] They lied to the FTC [a]. They lied to WhatsApp and the EU [B]. They created an Oversight Board and then, wait for it, lied to it [c].

—[a] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/182_3109_fa...

—[b] https://euobserver.com/digital/137953

—[c] https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-oversight-board-says-...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Mosseri

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in the UK, certainly takes some convincing.

Looks like those bullshit PR feelgood ads really do work on some people. I don't know how naive you would have to be to believe that $CORP really cares about you.

Well $CORP is here to serve its various stakeholders and its customers is arguably one of the most important.

The issue with $ADS_CORP is that the people it serves ads to are not the customer. But they are still a stakeholder, simply a less important one.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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In other news, the sky appears to be blue.

People in this thread say variations of your comment, that it's obvious, that everyone knows it.

But then at the same time people still make excuses for companies like Facebook. They urge others not to assume any bad (or purely profit oriented) intent, to believe that the people working at Facebook are honest about what their PR campaigns and Zuckerberg claim and the list goes on...

Also it is absolutely common that people really want to give companies the benefit of the doubt when it comes to morals vs. profit.

So it's clearly not that obvious to most, it's just that people agree if you phrase it the way this headline does.

Also still everyone does the dance of company marketing and "mission statements". Quotes like "we here at want to make the world a better place" are still often taken at face value or repeated outside the work environment.

It's not clear, or if it is, most still play along.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like those bullshit PR feelgood ads really do work on some people. I don't know how naive you would have to be to believe that $CORP really cares about you.

Since we are talking about the UK, as Adam Smith said, “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest.“

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