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India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

> 1B is very impressive

Those are Sino* vaccines, which are only about 51% effective. (WHO considers 50% to be ineffective.)

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Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

Say clearly what’s in your head. You’re saying a brilliant and intelligent person like Manmohan Singh couldn’t have done this? Because he was the last Indian leader leading a coalition who saw us through 2008 International economic crisis and was an architect of 1991 Indian Industrialization push.

Covid was an event of unimaginable proportions which affected every Indian and I believe any Indian leader would have done same or even more than what Modi’s government did provided India was already a leader in vaccination logistics and vaccine production even before Modi came to power. For all the good said about current vaccination numbers, they are well below than what could have been achieved had Modi govt. acted in a more timely manner and played the international vaccine politics better. Over committing Vaccine production to the outside world, delaying the immunization drive because of unnecessary red-tape and toxic nationalism, delaying the deployment of well tested Moderna and Pfizer vaccines forever but approving locally designed vaccine Covaxin even before its phase three trials were over, overblowing the vaccination numbers on some designated dates to create “single day vaccination records” while creating shortage on other dates at the same are all blots on this vaccination drive.

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Please note this is total doses, i.e., adding up people who've got the first dose and the second dose, so it's double-counting people who've got both. The more accurate number is 290 million, which is how many people have got both doses. Our population is 1.3 billion, so we're still a long way away. https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/

290 million fully vaccinated and 1,390 million total population. :) [1 crore = 10 million]

3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity (this is true for many other vaccines as well). 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year.

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#46
Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#47

Please note this is total doses, i.e., adding up people who've got the first dose and the second dose, so it's double-counting people who've got both. The more accurate number is 290 million, which is how many people have got both doses. Our population is 1.3 billion, so we're still a long way away. https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/

Still quite respectacle, if not impressive.

And every dose, be it the first or the second, has to be produced, bought, shipped and administered to a Human being who has been convinced to take it...

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#48

By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

They say because they still maintain a zero covid strategy for the foreseeable future: https://time.com/6104303/china-zero-covid/

As far as I have read China heavily locks down regions if covid flares emerge, tests everyone in the region within a few days, then opens everything up less than a week later. This doesn't fit to the way more laissez-faire approach in the West.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

> It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

Only one country has reached 90%. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

How is the UAE doing compared to other countries?

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

> 1B is very impressive Those are Sino* vaccines, which are only about 51% effective. (WHO considers 50% to be ineffective.)

Sinovac is said to be 51% effective at preventing symptoms, but 87%-100% effective at preventing hospitalization or death. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57817591
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