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Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by depressedpanda » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #19

For those who think web-based IDEs are inefficient, I recommend giving VS Code in the browser a try: nowadays it's just as performant as it is on the desktop. Even on the iPad it's just as performant (with 120Hz scrolling!), although as noted in the announcement, the file system limitations make it a bit of a pain to work with for ad hoc coding.

> Even on the iPad it's just as performant (with 120Hz scrolling!), although as noted in the announcement, the file system limitations make it a bit of a pain to work with for ad hoc coding.

That's on Apple, because they only allow Safari (or reskinned variants of Safari) on iOS.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by easton » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #29

>"Fast forward to today. Now when you go to https://vscode.dev , you'll be presented with a lightweight version of VS Code running fully in the browser." Does that imply there is functionality missing from the online version of VS Code?

Mostly anything that relies on having a real system attached to it instead of the browser JS engine. Running code, or a terminal, or things that rely on the git binary. Lots of extensions are working to remove their dependencies on the local system though.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by qbasic_forever » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

Interesting they're using tree-sitter for syntax highlighting. Obviously they can't run LSPs in the browser so this must have been an alternative. I'd be curious to see this get into mainline desktop VS Code though (and I'm not alone: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/50140).

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by tkzed49 » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

riquito wrote: post #37

What api is it using to let you create a file in a local directory? I know about https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FileSystem but that's for virtualized filesystems

confusingly called the File System Access API

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System...

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by atonse » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

n8cpdx wrote: post #5

Very cool stuff. I remember being at Build 2018 and asking the PM on the Live Share team if they had any plans to bring VS Code to the browser. Maybe do managed environments for labs and companies (what GitHub code spaces now is), would be great for education. Lots of students (especially non-CS nerds, like the physics kids with a CS requirement) find environment setup to be one of the hardest parts. He seemed to thi…

It seems like this person had the wrong personality to man a conference booth.

Being a PM with a closed mind doesn’t qualify you. Seeing conferences as opportunities to learn new ideas or even hearing from existing customers can bring a lot of value.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by lucasmullens » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #29

>"Fast forward to today. Now when you go to https://vscode.dev , you'll be presented with a lightweight version of VS Code running fully in the browser." Does that imply there is functionality missing from the online version of VS Code?

Some extensions aren't available, such as GitLens.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by yunohn » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

riquito wrote: post #37

What api is it using to let you create a file in a local directory? I know about https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FileSystem but that's for virtualized filesystems

They’ve literally linked it at first mention - https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/API/File_System_Acces... .

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by tiffanyh » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

easton wrote: post #42

tiffanyh wrote: post #29

>"Fast forward to today. Now when you go to https://vscode.dev , you'll be presented with a lightweight version of VS Code running fully in the browser." Does that imply there is functionality missing from the online version of VS Code?

Mostly anything that relies on having a real system attached to it instead of the browser JS engine. Running code, or a terminal, or things that rely on the git binary. Lots of extensions are working to remove their dependencies on the local system though.

So these limitations don't exist for Codespaces then?

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by qbasic_forever » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

riquito wrote: post #37

What api is it using to let you create a file in a local directory? I know about https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FileSystem but that's for virtualized filesystems

Web file system access API, it's only in edge and chrome right now unfortunately: https://web.dev/file-system-access/

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by TremendousJudge » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

n8cpdx wrote: post #5

Very cool stuff. I remember being at Build 2018 and asking the PM on the Live Share team if they had any plans to bring VS Code to the browser. Maybe do managed environments for labs and companies (what GitHub code spaces now is), would be great for education. Lots of students (especially non-CS nerds, like the physics kids with a CS requirement) find environment setup to be one of the hardest parts. He seemed to thi…

As a CS student we used Cloud9 IDE for developing and code sharing in assignments -- we didn't know what Git was and using it didn't become a requirement until later semesters. "Don't touch anything, let me compile first" was a common utterance.

Haven't looked into it for a while, apparently it was bought by Amazon and you need an AWS account? Back then it was just open the site and you're coding