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Re: Android 12

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Post by mminer237 »

no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

It now opaquely covers the entire screen when you look at a single notification.

Re: Android 12

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Post by gog »

Zigurd wrote: post #36
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #27

So if it’s released, why does my phone say there are no updates available… /s

This is a serious problem that Google has not worked nearly hard enough. Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. But not having that for most OEMs is, among other things, a security problem.

> Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day.

Not really, I live in Croatia (EU member) and the product is not available in my country.

Re: Android 12

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Post by handrous »

I see three total representations of time... I think? I think that's what I'm looking at on the left screenshot on the "Mon 4" widget? A clock face? One of them's normal (top bar), one (the clock face) looks way more "cutesy" and decorative than functional, so I guess if it's some customization and not standard, that's fine, but what's with the Lock Screen? Why print the time with unusual formatting on there? (I know, I know, the answer is "it looks very nice in screenshots for marketing... and for my portfolio")

Rightmost screenshot: wow, iOS and Android quick-settings screens have converged a lot more than I realized, since I was last in the Android world. Who copied whom?

It's really weird that the rightmost screenshot (the quick-settings screen) bumps the top bar down for a second top bar that just prints the date, in small type.

The permissions and privacy stuff seems OK but I'm surprised they were so far behind on that front that this is new.

Screenshot interface is also damn near identical to the one on my iPhone. Again, dunno who got there first, or if it's just convergent design... but wow, it's very close. The "scrolling screenshot" thing is cool, though I wonder how that'll interact with drawing rules for various app widgets—or maybe it just works on web content? (no clue if my iPhone can do that—I don't think so?)

Phone switching feature—again, I'm surprised this is new for them. Being able to do it from iPhone, too, is a nice touch though.

Re: Android 12

#44

Post by nix23 »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #40
causi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who grew up using 160x160 and 320x320 PDAs, the idea a smartphone now uses a 1080x1200 rectangle to only give me eight buttons makes me want to throw up.

As someone who used 132x65 pagers back then, my Blackberry RIM 850 can display more information in the screen than my Samsung Note 8. I loathe this "maximum white space!!" UIs as well. My boss prefers the grandparent-mode UIs whereas I prefer compact with every space is being used as possible. I like to have high-density texts like the old day of Reddit to minimum screen-scrolling.

Oh man, blackberry's where such perfect communication devices, fast writing no additional bs...i miss that time, it was the perfect mix of smart and dump phone...and nothing more was/is needed.

Re: Android 12

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Post by AnssiH »

handrous wrote: post #43

I see three total representations of time... I think? I think that's what I'm looking at on the left screenshot on the "Mon 4" widget? A clock face? One of them's normal (top bar), one (the clock face) looks way more "cutesy" and decorative than functional, so I guess if it's some customization and not standard, that's fine, but what's with the Lock Screen? Why print the time with unusual formatting on there? (I know…

> Phone switching feature—again, I'm surprised this is new for them. Being able to do it from iPhone, too, is a nice touch though.

The feature itself is very old. I think they are implying that in previous versions it did not transfer all your "essentials" and now it does - it isn't really clear to me what exactly they improved, though. And the iPhone bit may be new.

Re: Android 12

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Post by vetinari »

no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

> In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen?

Don't you think that a letter is a bit optimistic? What about colored buttons with icons, ala Idiocracy?

Re: Android 12

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Post by sbradford26 »

handrous wrote: post #43

I see three total representations of time... I think? I think that's what I'm looking at on the left screenshot on the "Mon 4" widget? A clock face? One of them's normal (top bar), one (the clock face) looks way more "cutesy" and decorative than functional, so I guess if it's some customization and not standard, that's fine, but what's with the Lock Screen? Why print the time with unusual formatting on there? (I know…

The scrolling screenshot feature is the only thing I am semi excited about. I had it on my old Huawei Mate 10 Pro and used it a lot.

Re: Android 12

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Post by bko »

nly wrote: post #9

Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

I've been underwhelmed by recent mobile updates. Maybe I'm missing something but the stuff that sticks out is oh, this rectangle is rounded now. New clock face, okay.

I guess floating notifications, but even that is meh. Facebook had those annoying floating faces 5 years ago

I do remember when they were trying to push touchless gestures (e.g. changing the spotify song by waving your hand) which is a perfect example of a feature that pretty much no one wanted. I imagine google had to pay spotify to include that feature. Needless to say

Re: Android 12

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Post by naikrovek »

no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

always nice when an optimist joins the conversation. everything just lightens right up.
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