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Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

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Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#41
I do not understand this. I mean, politicians do this all the time and do not go to jail (Spain).

I do not mean people offer themselves for briving.

But did anyone ever think what would happen if politicians did not have much power to regulate? Companies would not be able to lobby.

That means there would not be nearly as much incentive to brive as there is today.

Once a regulator is in the middle, the incentive for corruption is there.

I do not think people use Netflix because of the corrupt business of this guy. They use it because it is entertaining or find it useful. The same way people will keep studying Picasso (I hate his art, but anyways) because they consider it art, and he was a misogynist.

But his art is his art, the same way Netflix is entertaining for some people.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#43
The DOJ press release is clearer than this article is:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/former-netflix-executiv...

Some fun details:

Kail did his criming through a shell LLC he set up called "Unix Mercenary".

He took between 10-15% of the total billings for each of the companies he hooked up with this scheme. None of those companies were charged (more's the pity).

They got him on mail fraud, wire fraud, honest services fraud, and money laundering. The victim of the fraud was, of course, Netflix itself.

Additional fun facts from PACER:

He's seeking to exclude his shares in Sumo Logic and Netskope from forfeiture, arguing that they were largely the result of his own hard work, which takes some serious chutzpah.

All of this apparently happened back in 2014 (the conviction is recent). If you're wondering what Netflix thought of all this, Kail apparently left Netflix for a job at Yahoo, from which he was fired after Netflix found out about his scheme and told Yahoo.

Kail's sentencing memorandum is a fun read (again: chutzpah). For instance, this gem:

Further, though Mr. Kail complained of problems with Sumologic (as one would see with any new startup), the product itself was “useful,” according to Ashi Sheth. (R.T. Vol. 8, p. 1670-71). As described below, at the time, Sumologic saved Netflix from paying for a far more expensive and inferior product called Splunk.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#44

Hey, I'm the author of the article -- just wanted to point out that what made this story interesting to me is the implication that this kind of conduct could be very widespread. Prosecutors definitely hinted at that. If anyone knows of any similar stories, I'd be very interested in hearing them. christie.smythe@businessofbusiness.com

The amount of "I don't get why this is wrong?" going on in this thread would seem to support the prosecutors' view that this is a widespread practice.

Long ago, before Dotcom went Dotbomb, I worked for a firm where the CIO was being paid kickbacks by our hardware reseller. He was terminated for other reasons and, shortly after he left, our head of network ops got a call from the distributor asking where they should send the bonus check that was due to him. They clearly thought that with the CIO gone, the head of network ops would be down the with the deal.

Unfortunately for them, and fortunately for him, he was absolutely not down with the deal and reported the whole thing up the chain.

We were overpaying for hardware and the previous CIO had been splitting the difference with the distributor.

If it's unclear to anyone on this thread why that is both illegal and immoral... perhaps you are in the wrong business?

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#45

> There was just one catch to landing that deal: It had to hire the streaming company’s vice president of IT operations, Michael Kail, as a consultant and an advisor, and pay him with fees and stock options. I completely get how a startup would take this deal, however gross it is, but what I don't understand is how the exec got away with it from Netflix's side. And the fact this wasn't just 1 but 8 other startups he…

That's the key question. In all the companies I worked for in the last 20 years he would have been fired instantly.

As soon as the right person found out about it...

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#46
This is so incredibly common and is actually taught as tactic at many accelerators.

You can form "customer advisory boards" which basically pay small percentages of common to early users to use the product.

Like, seriously, more than half of the companies funded by YC do this. I think this is the norm more than the outlier.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#47
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first sentence of the second paragraph says: "There was just one catch to landing that deal: It had to hire the streaming company’s vice president of IT operations, Michael Kail, as a consultant and an advisor, and pay him with fees and stock options." That seems pretty clear to me.

It seems very unclear to me. I don't understand why that's illegal or wrong. Someone was hired and paid using fees and stock options? Seems fine to me. I don't understand corporate structure enough to understand why that's problematic... “leveraged his status as a leader of the IT community in Silicon Valley to subvert the trust of Netflix and others to profit at their expense” How did he leverage it in a way that wa…

He was playing both sides of the deal : acting for Netflix in selecting a vendor, while simultaneously acting as a paid consultant to the vendor.

Conflict of interest. Netflix is defrauded because they could have selected a lower cost vendor, or developed the service in-house.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#48

Hey, I'm the author of the article -- just wanted to point out that what made this story interesting to me is the implication that this kind of conduct could be very widespread. Prosecutors definitely hinted at that. If anyone knows of any similar stories, I'd be very interested in hearing them. christie.smythe@businessofbusiness.com

This is super common in the Valley. This isn't the exception it's the norm.

Every single angel investor I have ever pitched asked for/suggested this.

If this is illegal 99% of the Valley is committing fraud.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

#49
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly why I'm confused. I would also like this clarified.

I can't imagine any BoD would be cool with an executive responsible for signing deals getting essentially paid for signing those deals given what a clear conflict of interest that would be. And the BoD itself would probably be found to be failing their fiduciary responsibility under those circumstances.

I could imagine some slippier cases. A lot of successful startup executives have a bunch of money and invest it in startups. They (of course) pick ones that they think will do a good job in their space. It isn't that crazy to imagine them recommending using a startup they've invested in, and it's also possible to imagine them making a convincing case to a board that the startup is the best option available.

They still can profit massively from that, though, so it's still kind of messy territory.

Re: Former Netflix executive convicted of receiving bribes from contractors

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some feedback from an outsider: IMO you do a poor job clearly outlining the transgressions and the legal issues at play. You bounce around phrases like "pay-to-play"but as someone not inside the startup world, I didn't get to the end of your article and understand exactly what he did that was illegal/immoral and the context for how it's harmful to startups. In other words, I know he is accused of doing something wron…

The first sentence of the second paragraph says: "There was just one catch to landing that deal: It had to hire the streaming company’s vice president of IT operations, Michael Kail, as a consultant and an advisor, and pay him with fees and stock options." That seems pretty clear to me.

It is pretty standard practice to submit any consulting/advisory contracts to HR at your full time employer before you sign the deal. They can verify there is no conflict of interest. You also generally need to declare these relationships when you start a new job. This article is not clear if these procedures were followed. I'm guessing that these deals were secretive, hence the crime.
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