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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by mhio »

revolvingocelot wrote: post #19
kova12 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's GrapheneOS

...which is doomed to death whenever Google stops with the security updates for the very specific hardware it runs on. In fairness, IIRC, this is actually the fault of Qualcomm providing, and eventually ceasing to provide, Google with hardware security updates of some sort. The point is that these fun projects to circumvent baked-in awfulness are practically destined to stop working properly due to the nature of the…

Are graphene releases/support completed tied to google releases/support? I had assumed they were able to update their version of android for a phone beyond what google does.

edit - found it https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices

> It cannot do that once device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is no longer actively maintained. Even if the community was prepared to take over maintenance of the open source code and to replace the rest, firmware would present a major issue, and the community has never been active or interested enough in device support to consider attempting this

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by Kaze404 »

akerl_ wrote: post #36
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

Companies are not individuals.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by system2 »

dylan604 wrote: post #25
41209 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just saw the announcement for the new HTC Vive standalone. I'm going to wait until someone figures out a way to run games on the thing, and then I might consider dropping $600 on that setup. It's not a great idea to buy products which require you to hack them.

Unless your an, ahem, hacker. What site is this? Then these kinds of things make you drool at the possibilities.

He might be talking about Focus 3 maybe?

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by nitrogen »

duskwuff wrote: post #29
rhacker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean I don't see why this couldn't apply cart-blanche to all computers. I don't need to sign into MS, Mac to use the computers (though I do for my mac because of corp. policy). It has been getting harder, but fuck, why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around?

> why not use this opportunity to turn this shit around? Because your proposed legislation would outlaw most IoT devices. This is, in fact, bad.

It's 100% possible to make electronics that do not require a connection to the Internet to function. That is, in fact, good.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by rhacker »

akerl_ wrote: post #36
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

> Why is it desirable for Congress

Humans are dumb and they buy it, and it sets the precedent. We have to make laws sometimes. You can barely even buy a TV without smart features now and yet everyone that knows about such features that don't want them still HAVE to buy them if they want a gd tv.

Should we just make it legal for oil companies to have no consequences for oil spills because it doesn't really affect much, we can just stop eating fish in the sea. There's still plenty of food elsewhere.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by steve76 »

akerl_ wrote: post #36
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

Big rich guy, if you're so smart and good, why do you need a bailout?

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by camkego »

rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Has anyone else noticed what a large add campaign Facebook has launched featuring Millennials asking for new and re-vamped Internet regulation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kur94OyXf3U

What is this all about?

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by jdc »

akerl_ wrote: post #36
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

How about the freedom to use your property, electronic or otherwise, as you see fit?

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by ksdale »

Kaze404 wrote: post #42
akerl_ wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

Companies are not individuals.

I'm no corporate shill, but corporations are groups of people, so anything you think it's ok to take away from them because they're a group and not a person, you could logically take away from, say, a union or a farmer's market. If it was wise to make that law regarding facebook, would it be wise to make it regarding an individual as well, or should individuals be allowed to do it because they're not groups? And if individuals shouldn't be allowed to do it, then it's not really about the distinction between corporations and individuals.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by MereInterest »

akerl_ wrote: post #36
rhacker wrote: post #15

Facebook keeps asking Congress to make laws. How about this one: Peripherals, including mice, monitors, keyboards, VR headsets or any other device used to process input or output from a computer, may NOT be connected to any cloud service with an account. Any such cloud connections MUST be for software updates only and software updates MUST be capable of permanent opt-out without any loss of usage. I mean I grew up wi…

Why is it desirable for Congress to make laws limiting how electronics manufacturers can design their electronics? If Facebook wants to make a VR headset that requires that you upload a monthly video of you doing the chicken dance, just don’t buy their product. Attempting to use government to make private entities build the kinds of technology you like is a pretty heavy hammer to drop on individual freedoms.

Because freedom can be infringed upon by more than just the government. The market is not infallible, and must be curtailed in order to protect individual rights.
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