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Personally I find Backblaze B2 more compelling. ... Ok, after writing that, I realized that I should probably look up R2's offering first. And then my jaw hit the floor at "free egress bandwidth". Free egress bandwidth ? Yes please. I will instantly convert. Then I was worried about price per GB. $0.015/GB is incredibly competitive. Good lord, where do I get early access to this thing? I'd transition all our infra to…
Backblaze, IIRC, doesn't distribute data across multiple regions.
I don't see excatly how the r2 model will be viable, you basically have a free CDN. I don't see that staying that way.
Cloudflare has a business model where they can basically handle any network load you throw at them.
They are monetizing their advantage here by allowing you to make full use of their network as long as you make use of their paid storage as well.
The margins in the cloud business and AWS especially are breathtakingly large and yet, considered affordable by enterprises so far because the alternative of standing up your own compute and networking capacity is not just significantly expensive, there just isn’t enough talent available in the world to go around for every enterprise to have a decently staffed team doing so.
The lower egress fees are super nice, but until someone can beat the Glacier Deep Archive pricing @ $0.00099 per GB I'm going to keep using that.
That's not for data you Will actually use. You are only including one of the many cysts ( egress and retrieval) + it's really slow. Cloudflare brings R2 to the edge.
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I think that when CF say unlimited bandwidth they really mean it. I manage a domain on the business level plan for a domain and I pushed over 1PB through it in January. Not a single complaint from CF and no sales calls pushing enterprise tier. They haven't clarified their file operations costs yet though. That could get pricy but will more than likely be cancelled out by the egress savings for most use cases.
Not saying your experience isn't true, but I've heard horror stories of accounts being disabled for using too much "non-HTML" bandwidth, even on business level ($200/month) accounts (at the single digit TB level). The limits seem to be arbitrary and ill defined. CF may be great technically, but I personally wouldn't use them without an enterprise agreement in place. Bandwidth should be cheap, but cheap does not equal…
In our case, one of our games DAU went pretty crazy last Christmas which resulted in a huge increase in players (who all need to download hundreds of MB of data). Maybe if it'd continued for many months the situation would be different and that angry email from CF would have eventually arrived.
The lower egress fees are super nice, but until someone can beat the Glacier Deep Archive pricing @ $0.00099 per GB I'm going to keep using that.
"Archive" Archive is great for archiving. S3 standard tier is not for archiving.
IMO, the best feature Cloudflare added to R2 was the automatic migration. This makes sense for a CDN to offer, but if R2 works, this makes it pretty simple to migrate. "After specifying an existing storage bucket, R2 will serve requests for objects from the existing bucket," I've Beene evaluating R2, but this migration path makes it dead simple to use. I just point my code to read/write from/to R2 instead of S3, and…
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Personally I find Backblaze B2 more compelling. ... Ok, after writing that, I realized that I should probably look up R2's offering first. And then my jaw hit the floor at "free egress bandwidth". Free egress bandwidth ? Yes please. I will instantly convert. Then I was worried about price per GB. $0.015/GB is incredibly competitive. Good lord, where do I get early access to this thing? I'd transition all our infra to…
> That's why Cloudflare plans to eliminate egress fees, deliver object storage that is at least 10% cheaper than S3, and make infrequent access completely free for customers
A few elements of concern. It says they "plan to", so we don't know if this is near term or some moonshot type of goal. It also states earlier in the press release that the free egress frees are offered via the "Bandwidth Alliance", which removes bandwidth charges between member providers. While it is noteworthy that GCP (Google Cloud Provider) and Microsoft Azure are part of this alliance, AWS is not! So does this mean that egress fees will be charged if an AWS server requests the file?
I also don't know what to think about the statement that they plan to make infrequent access completely free... does that mean that I can throw files onto R2 for archive purposes and not pay anything? Because that is what it sounds like by that statement, but it obviously sounds impractical or too good to be true.
Original Press Release: https://www.cloudflare.com/press-releases/2021/cloudflare-an...
Personally I find Backblaze B2 more compelling. ... Ok, after writing that, I realized that I should probably look up R2's offering first. And then my jaw hit the floor at "free egress bandwidth". Free egress bandwidth ? Yes please. I will instantly convert. Then I was worried about price per GB. $0.015/GB is incredibly competitive. Good lord, where do I get early access to this thing? I'd transition all our infra to…
We will see in practice how it is. As the article suggested, there are often caveats to "unlimited" and honestly I don't even think they have written unlimited anywhere :)
CF already talked about egress pricing here https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/
i would say that when they talk unlimited, they actually mean it.
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What part is OP missing?
If you’re using AWS, S3 (and Cloudfront) it will just be a tiny part of your infrastructure, why would you move that out of AWS and lose the integration coming from having everything in AWS?
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I think that when CF say unlimited bandwidth they really mean it. I manage a domain on the business level plan for a domain and I pushed over 1PB through it in January. Not a single complaint from CF and no sales calls pushing enterprise tier. They haven't clarified their file operations costs yet though. That could get pricy but will more than likely be cancelled out by the egress savings for most use cases.
Not saying your experience isn't true, but I've heard horror stories of accounts being disabled for using too much "non-HTML" bandwidth, even on business level ($200/month) accounts (at the single digit TB level). The limits seem to be arbitrary and ill defined. CF may be great technically, but I personally wouldn't use them without an enterprise agreement in place. Bandwidth should be cheap, but cheap does not equal…