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Mixed feelings about him honestly. I still can't forget how he betrayed Wozniak.
Or how he taunted Alvy Ray Smith because of his Southern accent. Or how his example continues to be used to excuse bad behavior today ("but Steve Jobs did it that way").
This thread reminds me of the last Steve Jobs related thread. So many people bashing Jobs based on stories they’ve read having never met him and knowing little about him. People seem to think they even know his private medical history based on only public reports. So much judgement and criticism and it feels completely unnecessary. It’s the kind of pointless outrage type comments we tend not to find very often on HN,…
I'm not saying they always should, but is just an observation.
I think is fair to say that Jobs changed several industries and that has a lot of value to me, but there are plenty of documented situations when I was left thinking he was not a good person.
I don't need to know him to learn from all those documented facts.
I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…
I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…
> I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around There is no way Jobs would have been at the helm of Apple, even if he was still alive. He'd have been canceled, matter of fact he'd have been one of the first people to get canceled given that he'd be occupying a spot wanted by basically everybody, plus he had made so many enemies....and finally let's not dabble around it: guy had so ma…
I've thought a lot about his legacy lately with the permanently on-going horror story that is Facebook and Mark Zuckerburg. For all of Steve's flaws, from an outside observer like myself, it seems that his intentions/desires/goals for Apple, Pixar, NeXT were mostly, or at least equally, fueled by genuinely wanting to improve the lives of humans. Among the rarified air of modern radical world-changing billionaire CEO'…
Bezos has had no significant public profile to speak of except as a brutal, unrelenting capitalist. He's clearly trying to change that with his post-Amazon charm tour in space.
This thread reminds me of the last Steve Jobs related thread. So many people bashing Jobs based on stories they’ve read having never met him and knowing little about him. People seem to think they even know his private medical history based on only public reports. So much judgement and criticism and it feels completely unnecessary. It’s the kind of pointless outrage type comments we tend not to find very often on HN,…
At the same time, I'm profoundly upset at his introduction of the App Store and sidelining of the right to repair. Our devices belong to us. We should be able to do with them what we please.
It's also incredibly anti-competitive to tell every startup in the world that what was once free to distribute, market, and form a relationship with their customer: "now you must sit atop Apple rails for (entirely artificial) reasons". It's extractive. There's so much more to solve in the world. Why take energy from those smaller than you? It lowered the fitness and innovation capacity of everyone else. Those dollars could be runway and additional labor for someone with bright ideas.
Jobs was a human just like the rest of us. There was both good and bad in him, and he made a profound mark upon society. The world was shaped by his short time here. No question.
It may also help to temper the new born hatred against Apple from their long time supporters.
I really wish he was still alive, and continue to be the yard stick of quality so we dont have Apple Music, spending two years on the next song and then another two years reversing that. [1], Apple TV+, as Steve would have partnered with Disney. A whole generation of MacBook with Butterfly Keyboard. Apple without an Editor is like a Giant Design Studio, everything looks great, from UI to Industrial Design. But they are more forms over function.
I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…
I think he did quite a bit out of the ordinary, according to reports like this (1): > "Through a legal, little-known practice called multiple listing, Jobs doubled his odds by getting on waiting lists in California and Tennessee. Competition was too stiff back home in California, and Jobs, his wealth and fame notwithstanding, may have died waiting. But in mere weeks he jumped to the top of the list in Memphis, ahead…
I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…
I cant help but think Apple is using Steve to tell us what Apple really is. Since Tim Cook has failed to communicate that message across to its audience. ( May be apart from certain ideology group ). It may also help to temper the new born hatred against Apple from their long time supporters. I really wish he was still alive, and continue to be the yard stick of quality so we dont have Apple Music, spending two years…