We have a fairly large Nix binary cache in S3, with not insignificant egress fees, and I'd love to try this out as a replacement.
Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees
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#42Curious to see how this compares to Bunny.net Edge Storage (they are working on S3 support as well): https://bunny.net/edge-storage/
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#43Interesting pricing considering Backblaze is another Bandwidth Alliance member and they only charge $0.005/GBmonth (vs. $0.015/GBmonth). B2 + CloudFlare gives you a similar deal at a third the cost.
Yes but you can only use B2 via CloudFlare for web pages. Using it as a data storage platform isn't allowed. Unless of course you're willing to pay handsomely via an enterprise contract, but then the pricing changes. Use of the Services for serving video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other non-HTML content is prohibited, unless purchased separately as part of a Paid Service or expressl…
That limitation doesn’t apply to the R2 service or Workers generally. We’ll update and clarify our ToS. Thanks for flagging!
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#44I know the Cloudflare team hangs out here, so thanks, and great job! This was absolutely necessary for my line of work. Couple of quick questions/confirmations:
* R2 will support the same object sizes as S3? We have 500GB+ objects and could go to a 1TB per object. * R2 will support HTTP Range GETs, right?
Egress bandwidth for objects on S3 is the biggest line item on the AWS bill for a company I work for, by an order of magnitude, and this will just wipe it off for the most part.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would you like the answer to be? Do you need regional control over data storage like we do with this https://blog.cloudflare.com/supporting-jurisdictional-restri... ?
Yes, definitely, EU regulated industries need to be 100% sure to keep data in EU datacenters
We plan to add support for data residency requirements on an object-by-object basis. In other words, if you need one object to stay in the EU and another to stay in the US and a third to stay in India you tag each object using the same API and we handle ensuring the residency requirements behind the scenes.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have, I've also taken a look at Mux. Both would be fantastic options, and I'm still considering them, but I don't have many films and I'm biased towards distributing the original high-quality encodes. Both of these services significantly reduce the file-size with a re-encode, even if they promote an "impercievable quality loss". They seem to be more suited to high traffic on-demand streaming for websites, promotion…
Do you expect your viewer to download and not view it directly on a website?
Yes, most people I know who have an interest have slow connections, or watch it on a TV with a USB. It's a unique requirement.
That doesn't mean they can't stream, there is an option to watch it in the browser, they just need a reliable connection (~30 Mbit/s).
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes but you can only use B2 via CloudFlare for web pages. Using it as a data storage platform isn't allowed. Unless of course you're willing to pay handsomely via an enterprise contract, but then the pricing changes. Use of the Services for serving video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other non-HTML content is prohibited, unless purchased separately as part of a Paid Service or expressl…
That limitation doesn’t apply to the R2 service or Workers generally. We’ll update and clarify our ToS. Thanks for flagging!
Continue to be impressed to have the CEO replying to comments on HN, as with Stripe ... that's a good signal :)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes but you can only use B2 via CloudFlare for web pages. Using it as a data storage platform isn't allowed. Unless of course you're willing to pay handsomely via an enterprise contract, but then the pricing changes. Use of the Services for serving video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other non-HTML content is prohibited, unless purchased separately as part of a Paid Service or expressl…
That limitation doesn’t apply to the R2 service or Workers generally. We’ll update and clarify our ToS. Thanks for flagging!
But to clarify it _does_ apply to B2?
Re: Cloudflare R2 storage: Rapid and reliable object storage, minus the egress fees
#49Sounds great (nearly too-good-to-be-true great). Wonder how the SLA will look like. I have been using gcs, s3 and firestore - and their actual reliability varies significantly, while advertised slas are similar. For instance, with firestore one has to implement a pretty lenient expotential backoff in case of a timeout, and if the backoff results in the object being retrieved in, say, 2 minutes -- thats still ok as per gcs sla. It obviously makes it hard to use it for user-facing stuff, such as chatbots, where you can't afford to wait that long. In my anecdotal experience of using firestore for about 10 million operations per day, we will usually have a problem like that every few days, and that means user-noticeable failure. It would be great to read more on cloudflare's approach to reliability defined as "99%" percentile max latencuy. Can't wait to give it a try with our workloads.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm excited because while B2 + Cloudflare is great, the speed+latency isn't the greatest for some applications. So there's definitely a place for R2 here to compete more with AWS S3 than B2.
What kind of speed difference are you seeing with B2 vs S3?
Latency (time to first byte) in serving infrequently accessed images was a big problem with me and B2. The cost was low enough that I've stuck with it though and coded on the front end of the site to use placeholder images until the real media can be retrieved.