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Bus drivers get benefits in the district I live in and the pay is not too bad. Still, I'd never consider it because the kids part.
I'd love to get benefits. Curious: does your district have a shortage too? If not, maybe the benefits make the difference?
There isn’t a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to be abused and exploited. I don’t think any amount of money would be enough for me to work with retail customers again. Much less unruly kids that you can’t do anything about. If it’s between your story and the story the kid told their parents, you’ll lose that battle most of the time and likely end up getting yourself in more trouble than you alrea…
> If it’s between your story and the story the kid told their parents, you’ll lose that battle most of the time and likely end up getting yourself in more trouble than you already were. You're not wrong, but I wanted to add to it. This is the reason the district where I live has 7 cameras per bus, 4 of which are inside, IIRC. Those cameras bring big peace of mind.
There isn’t a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to be abused and exploited. I don’t think any amount of money would be enough for me to work with retail customers again. Much less unruly kids that you can’t do anything about. If it’s between your story and the story the kid told their parents, you’ll lose that battle most of the time and likely end up getting yourself in more trouble than you alrea…
> There isn’t a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to be abused and exploited. and those "abused and exploited" people are providing the labor, leading to a labor shortage. I don't understand people who think "shortage" need to be qualified by how sympathetic the reason for the shortage is. You can either be the type of person who thinks any failure to meet demand is a shortage, or that shortages do…
There is a shortage of people willing to accept their terms. There isn’t a shortage of people who want to work.
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They could, but they don't because it's not their responsibility. Likewise, should we shame rich silicon valley knowledge workers because they didn't pay to keep their local restaurants afloat during the pandemic?
No, but we should shame the rich silicon valley workers for participating in the same kind of relentless race to find perfectly functioning systems that they can wedge themselves into the middle of and extract profit from while making life for everyone else a little shittier, just as we should shame the for-profit bus companies. Oh, and we should also shame the elected officials that keep on cutting the amount of mon…
Why not? They're private entities too, with plenty of money to keep the neighborhood resturant from having to shut down. Or better yet, pay their babysitter/dog walker even though they don't need their services?
>but we should shame the rich silicon valley workers for participating in the same kind of relentless race to find perfectly functioning systems that they can wedge themselves into the middle of and extract profit from while making life for everyone else a little shittier
I fail to see how this applies for someone working for FAANG.
>just as we should shame the for-profit bus companies.
No, we shouldn't, because that's not their job. There's a clear delineation of what's the private sector's responsibility and what's the governments. I sure as hell don't want my pandemic stimulus checks to depend on whether I happened to work for a well-off company or not.
>we should also shame the elected officials that keep on cutting the amount of money being given to public education
US has above-average per-pupil spending compared to other OECD countries. I doubt money is actually an issue. https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/figures/CMD/Figure_3_CMD-fl...
There isn’t a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to be abused and exploited. I don’t think any amount of money would be enough for me to work with retail customers again. Much less unruly kids that you can’t do anything about. If it’s between your story and the story the kid told their parents, you’ll lose that battle most of the time and likely end up getting yourself in more trouble than you alrea…
> I don’t think any amount of money would be enough for me to work with retail customers again. That _really_ depends on how much money you currently have.
"There's a lot of downtime during the day that you don't get paid for. You might work a 10-hour day, but you only get compensated for your shifts. .... [Corey Ford] as a driver, he earned $19/hr, which works out to a pre-tax income of ~$19.4k for 180 days of 5-hour shifts." Imagine a job that required your entire day, but they decided not to pay you during the late morning through the early afternoon. This has got to…
Waiting tables often have "split shifts".
As late as 1969, about half of kids under 15 usually walked or bicycled to school. By 2009, the figure was 13 percent."
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2021/9/23/the-school-bus...
In our local district, rather than have individual buses for elementary, middle school, etc., they are having one driver pick up the elementary kids, drop them off, the go back out and pick up the older kids. They had to change the start times for elementary and high school to make this work, and they're also paying the drivers more, but it seems to be working. One issue is that if a single driver goes down (illness,…
The district I am in does that, and they cannot find enough drivers at all.
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> There isn’t a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to be abused and exploited. and those "abused and exploited" people are providing the labor, leading to a labor shortage. I don't understand people who think "shortage" need to be qualified by how sympathetic the reason for the shortage is. You can either be the type of person who thinks any failure to meet demand is a shortage, or that shortages do…
The people saying there is a shortage of workers aren’t using the dictionary definitions. There is a shortage of people willing to accept their terms. There isn’t a shortage of people who want to work.
Would you also agree that there's no housing shortage in the US, only a shortage of houses available at locations and prices that people are willing to accept?
