I don't know why this is #1 on HN right now, but i just came here to say I was a sophomore at ISU in 2000. Go Cyclones.
Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
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Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Limewire. I remember using Limewire to pirate Limewire Pro
On Windows, Audiogalaxy. And on Mac, Poisoned! With support for FastTrack (Kazaa), Gnutella (Limewire), OpenFT, OpenNap, and eMule. But dial-up was too slow, so it was usually quicker to repair a friend's iPod and make a backup using iPodRip or Senuti.
Audiogalaxy had a Linux server as well, IIRC. And it preferred transfers from nearby networks (assuming they were numbered contiguously anyway), which was nice for popular stuff so it wouldn't clog external connections in dorms. Also nice that it showed you all the different versions so you could get both versions when bands made a shame on you release.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#43McMaster University, 2001. Ontario, Canada. The school took a novel approach to combat this. "Rez-x" was a file sharing system that was limited to the school's subnet. It didn't prevent you from using Napster, but by providing p2p access on the local (fast!) network, people just used it instead. So, rather than blocking the main pipe, they just gave a way more appealing local option (in a time where dialup was still…
Back in the day I remember tweaking and repackaging a Gnutella client which was preset to restricted its traffic to the university LAN.
It didn't take off though: The first-mover advantage of "that one guy who runs a Direct Connect server which you can also chat on" was too strong. (I just disagreed with the centralization.)
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think audiogalaxy was the real pioneer in p2p. Audiogalaxy satellite, IIRC, ran an ftp server on your machine while at the same time indexed your files and sent the list to audiogalaxy, the web service. From there, anyone could search for mp3 and download from users currently on-line. It was the begining. It soon became very clear the problems of centralization for this purpose, decentralized networks thrived. Most…
I remember Audiogalaxy, but cannot remember if it was before, after or basically concurrent with Napster..? Guess couldn’t have been before because Napster was the first right?
I used napster in junior college and audiogalaxy at my 4-year, so at least for me, Napster was first, but there was some time when both were around and usable.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#45There was something about piracy in the times of Napster, emule and the like. It really made you feel like you knew some incantation to get access to the whole world's information. In practical terms, I have access to far more content now (music on Spotify, shows and movies on streaming services, tutorials, online classes, etc) and yet our reach doesn't seem as wide as it seemed in those times. Perhaps it was just th…
I too feel the same way.
I think that's because not everyone had access, inclination or capability to access all that. Speeds were way lesser, bandwidth wasn't unlimited, most people were still on CDs and were more keen on converting them for the MP3 players.
Now that everyone can listen to all the music at any time using user-friendly apps, maybe it isn't as rare anymore.
Nowadays, everyone's on the internet, practically all the time, with everything standardized, be it interfaces, commerce or buzzwords/jargon.
From 'The Incredibles' - >> If everyone is special, no one is.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Limewire. I remember using Limewire to pirate Limewire Pro
On Windows, Audiogalaxy. And on Mac, Poisoned! With support for FastTrack (Kazaa), Gnutella (Limewire), OpenFT, OpenNap, and eMule. But dial-up was too slow, so it was usually quicker to repair a friend's iPod and make a backup using iPodRip or Senuti.
It only just now occurs to me that Senuti is iTunes backwards.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think audiogalaxy was the real pioneer in p2p. Audiogalaxy satellite, IIRC, ran an ftp server on your machine while at the same time indexed your files and sent the list to audiogalaxy, the web service. From there, anyone could search for mp3 and download from users currently on-line. It was the begining. It soon became very clear the problems of centralization for this purpose, decentralized networks thrived. Most…
I remember Audiogalaxy, but cannot remember if it was before, after or basically concurrent with Napster..? Guess couldn’t have been before because Napster was the first right?
Archive.org earliest reference I could find to audiogalaxy satellite is from august 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20000815233144/http://www.audiog...
While napster's from 1999: https://web.archive.org/web/20000815233144/http://www.audiog...
So, I think you're right. Strangely wikipedia agrees with my first thought... Maybe someone should fix it.
EDIT: audiogalaxy satellite came after napster, but audiogalaxy had a mp3 since at least may 1999.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#48'Got thirteen channels of shit on the T.V. to choose from.
I've got electric light.
And I've got second sight.
And amazing powers of observation.'
from: Nobody Home, The Wall 1979 by Pink Floyd
And today even less home with even more shit.
Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#49Oh God. Anyone remember "Napster Bad"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6udST6lbE
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Re: Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging networks (2000)
#50Napster is one of the two or three products that spawned a completely different world, entirely tossing established and antiquated rules on their head. Of course, very directly, Spotify would not exist without Napster. But a step further, it opened the eyes to end-users about their collective power, and the beauty of distributed distribution. It was the first proof that "regular" users would buy into such a thing. Na…
>Napster, in many ways, gave birth to BitTorrent, Bitcoin, and all of the derivative work thereof.
You say that, but before Napster, there was Seti(?), a program that would search for extra-terrestrial life - by distributing the work load on top your personal laptop