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Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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"We’ll continue to measure our contributions in the lives we change, the connections we foster, and the work we do to leave the world a better place." Maybe someone can leak the work they do to leave the world a better place because they have been real good at keeping that secret.

They make the world a better place by providing products and services for their customers.

They make the world a better place by making fancy toys for the top 10%.

Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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Too dangerous. What if every department gets a different phrase? Those people would probably do something like innocuously forward it to other departments. Reply to your version of the memo, but respond to the entire design and sales teams. Something like "What a great memo by Tim Cook!"

Yeah. I could imagine that steganography is only one part of the puzzle who is the impostor. Perhaps Apple has a secret departement dedicated to identify leakers. If they found someone they strongly suspect they lay out a trap, for example by only sending him confidential information. And, if someone innocuously forwards a memo, they have the electronic paper trail of that. Spionage, counter-spionage and counter-coun…

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Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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If secrets don't imply deception, that that seems to me like saying knowledge is useless. All truths or falsehoods are within some context and cannot be divorced from context. What does this have to do with "danger" or "evil"?

No it's not. For example almost everyone has curtains. Do you think everyone that closes their curtains is deceiving someone? Of course not. There are many reasons to keep something private, one of them beeing deception. But it's far from the only one.

"Of course not" because probably nobody is interested in looking in.

That seems like a trivial point to me, though.

As soon as somebody nosy is interested, then there is a purpose of deception.

Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

#45
post #9

"We’ll continue to measure our contributions in the lives we change, the connections we foster, and the work we do to leave the world a better place." Maybe someone can leak the work they do to leave the world a better place because they have been real good at keeping that secret.

I don’t really mind if you’re a Luddite but what are you doing on HackerNews?

Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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They make the world a better place by providing products and services for their customers.

They make the world a better place by making fancy toys for the top 10%.

Point taken, but to be fair on their end; their design philosophy for phones ushered a phenomenon where we have access to millenia of information gathered through Eons of research at any place with a phone connection, in a form factor that makes it easy and convenient to carry and consume. These devices can also transmit video or audio in real time to anyone in the world (again, with a connection) with services not tied down by international toll booths.

It's the most Star Trek like thing that has been achieved in the real world since the cell phone itself was invented. Google picked up the lower end slack and made these devices available in even some 2nd world countries, but Apple did pave a way.

Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They make the world a better place by providing products and services for their customers.

They make the world a better place by making fancy toys for the top 10%.

And you’re complaining about what? That the productive 10% are doing useful stuff for each other, making their lives better?

Re: Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong, according to leaked memo

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No it's not. For example almost everyone has curtains. Do you think everyone that closes their curtains is deceiving someone? Of course not. There are many reasons to keep something private, one of them beeing deception. But it's far from the only one.

"Of course not" because probably nobody is interested in looking in. That seems like a trivial point to me, though. As soon as somebody nosy is interested, then there is a purpose of deception.

No it isn't the purpose doesn't change depending on external factors. The purpose is privacy, that is not deception.
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