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Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Post by lordgroff »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #30

I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Consider me incredulous. I've been using Linux since '97 and for well over a decade now, I've rarely hit an installation problem.

I'm not saying there's never going to be a problem--especially with brand new hardware fresh off the press, especially combined with a slow moving distro. But trying once or twice every year, and it never working? Either you're running the most exotic hardware on the planet, or you're running the oddest distribution, or you should start playing the lottery.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#42

Post by lordgroff »

yagodragon wrote: post #40
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #30

I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Dual monitor setup is a huge problem with linux distros. I haven't found yet any DE that works out of the box. I'm really looking forward to KDE with official stable wayland support, until then 2021 is not the year of linux desktop

What's the issue with dual monitors and GNOME?

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Post by cassepipe »

ogogmad wrote: post #21
quantumsolace wrote: post #8

This "year of the Linux Desktop" joke is getting a bit tiresome. What is missing exactly? Sure the desktop is a bit ugly. But pretty much everything works out of the box. If MS released a native Office for Linux I could get rid of my Mac.

Have you tried running Office over Wine? Have you tried LibreOffice? Admittedly, I don't have to share complicated MS Office documents with other people, but I do like using LO. [edit] Actually, there are some things about LO I'm not sure about: For instance, I don't know how to use their formula editor, and when I tried using it, I got confused and found another way of inserting mathematical symbols into my document…

Especially with the new HUD functionality in LibreOffice to find useful commands super fast : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LibreOff...

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#45

Post by mgkimsal »

lordgroff wrote: post #41
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #30

I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Consider me incredulous. I've been using Linux since '97 and for well over a decade now, I've rarely hit an installation problem. I'm not saying there's never going to be a problem--especially with brand new hardware fresh off the press, especially combined with a slow moving distro. But trying once or twice every year, and it never working? Either you're running the most exotic hardware on the planet, or you're runn…

Or the OP's standards are higher than yours? Things you may gloss over or accept as 'good enough' are unacceptable to people looking for "just works" on par with a comparable windows install on the same hardware.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#46

Post by andrejserafim »

yagodragon wrote: post #40
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #30

I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Dual monitor setup is a huge problem with linux distros. I haven't found yet any DE that works out of the box. I'm really looking forward to KDE with official stable wayland support, until then 2021 is not the year of linux desktop

Works fine for me ;)

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#47

Post by lordgroff »

cloudbonsai wrote: post #13

The original article is: https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/2021-is-the-year-of-linux-on-... The basic thesis of the author was: 1. In 2021, Chromebooks are everywhere. 2. Chrome OS is Linux. 3. Therefore, 2021 is the year of Linux Desktop. Honestly, I'm not sure this is such a great argument. Isn't it rather like "2021 is the year of Chrome dominance"?

I mean I guess it's trivial (is it? it used to be) to run regular Linux applications on Chrome, so the fact it shares the kernel is useful, but how many people do that?

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#48

Post by lordgroff »

quantumsolace wrote: post #8

This "year of the Linux Desktop" joke is getting a bit tiresome. What is missing exactly? Sure the desktop is a bit ugly. But pretty much everything works out of the box. If MS released a native Office for Linux I could get rid of my Mac.

I find ugly very... subjective. Which DE are we talking about? Windows 10 vs GNOME? I pick GNOME personally, I think it's much easier on the eyes. I don't find Mac OS particularly amazing in comparison either. And even the highly "inflexible" GNOME lets you customize its look a hell of a lot more than Windows or Mac.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

lordgroff wrote: post #41
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #30

I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Consider me incredulous. I've been using Linux since '97 and for well over a decade now, I've rarely hit an installation problem. I'm not saying there's never going to be a problem--especially with brand new hardware fresh off the press, especially combined with a slow moving distro. But trying once or twice every year, and it never working? Either you're running the most exotic hardware on the planet, or you're runn…

Is a P51 (what, 3 years old now?) and two HDMI monitors. Is that exotic?

Last time I tried it was Ubuntu 20.04 when it was out. The result is in my post above.

I work in IT for 25 years and I am a geek at heart. The state of the Linux desktop is horrendous.

This is not a problem per se - Linux has a good and stable place on servers. It just means that peopel who want to run a desktop with linux must be ready for a lot of browsing, experimenting, ... Windows users do not.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

#50

Post by lordgroff »

mgkimsal wrote: post #45
lordgroff wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider me incredulous. I've been using Linux since '97 and for well over a decade now, I've rarely hit an installation problem. I'm not saying there's never going to be a problem--especially with brand new hardware fresh off the press, especially combined with a slow moving distro. But trying once or twice every year, and it never working? Either you're running the most exotic hardware on the planet, or you're runn…

Or the OP's standards are higher than yours? Things you may gloss over or accept as 'good enough' are unacceptable to people looking for "just works" on par with a comparable windows install on the same hardware.

Well let's hear it then. Because everything "just works" on my current setup. It's not always so of course, if you buy a laptop with a bunch of OS hostile components, sure that won't work well, but how's that the fault of Linux?

And even then, I have a Lenovo that was a very hostile driver experience to start with, and yet everything is now supported in the kernel minus the fingerprint reader.

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